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  1. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

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    The three major auctions (Bonhams, Gooding and RM) plus the new boy, Worldwide along with a selection from Barrett-Jackson, these are the 72 Ferrari's on offer at Scottsdale. Formatting is self explanatory but it is Auction, lot #, year, Make, Model, Chassis # and estimate in US$. If anyone would like to know more or receive a free newsletter that includes coverage of 500 lots on offer please email me [email protected].

    Happy new year (and bidding)

    Bonhams 44 1952 Ferrari 340 America Vignale Spider #0196A 7.5 - 9 mil.
    Bonhams 64 1960 Ferrari 250GT SWB California #2277GT Refer Department
    Bonhams 74 1960 Ferrari 250GT Series II Pininfarina Cabriolet #1967GT 1.4 - 1.8 mil.
    RM 231 1961 Ferrari 400SA SWB Coupe Aerodynamico 2841SA 3.25 - 3.85
    Gooding 126 1965 Ferrari 500 Superfast #5989SF 2.8 - 3.2 mil.
    Bonhams 38 1966 Ferrari 330GT 2+2 #07901 375 - 450k
    Bonhams 48 1966 Ferrari 275GTB #08973 2.5 - 3.5 mil.
    Gooding 146 1966 Ferrari 275GTB #08117 2.9 - 3.2 mil.
    RM 118 1966 Ferrari 330GT 2+2 #08485 250 - 300k
    RM 256 1966 Ferrari 275GTB/6C #08431 2.4 - 2.8 mil.
    Gooding 46 1967 Ferrari 275GTB/4 #10563 3 - 3.4 mil.
    RM 220 1967 Ferrari 330GTS #10689 2.2 - 2.5 mil.
    Worldwide 51 1967 Ferrari 330GTC #09911 575 - 675k
    Bonhams 62 1969 Ferrari 365GT 2+2 #12167 180 - 220k
    Gooding 20 1969 Ferrari 365GTC #11989 700 - 800k
    RM 263 1969 Ferrari 365GTS #12489 2.9 - 3.5 mil.
    Gooding 119 1970 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona 13231 850 - 950k
    Gooding 154 1970 Ferrari 365GT 2+2 13659 250 - 300k
    RM 120 1970 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona 13183 700 - 850k
    RM 261 1970 Ferrari 246GT 00690 375 - 450k
    B-J 1381 1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona Straman Spider Rep. 13941 ??
    Bonhams 66 1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona 14393 650 - 850k
    Bonhams 11 1972 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona 15155 600 - 800k
    Bonhams 77 1972 Ferrari 365GTC/4 15357 275 - 325k
    Gooding 4 1972 Ferrari 246GT 03978 275 - 350k
    Gooding 32 1973 Ferrari 246GTS 05836 325 - 425k
    Gooding 138 1973 Ferrari 246GTS 06106 325 - 375k
    RM 250 1974 Ferrari 365GT4/BB 18001 350 - 400k
    Bonhams 52 1975 Ferrari 365GT4/BB 18227 375 - 400k
    Bonhams 72 1976 Ferrari 308GTB Vetoresina 19483 200 - 240k
    Bonhams 21 1977 Ferrari 308GTB 22741 100 - 140k
    Bonhams 84 1978 Ferrari 512BB 22613 250 - 300k
    Worldwide 64 1978 Ferrari 308GTB 22219 110 - 130k
    RM 223 1979 Ferrari 308GTB 30461 125 - 150k
    Gooding 8 1980 Ferrari 512BB 30401 300 - 350k
    Gooding 39 1980 Ferrari 308GTB 31319 200 - 240k
    Gooding 106 1982 Ferrari 512BBi 40897 290 - 340k
    RM 240 1982 Ferrari 512BBi 42507 250 - 300k
    Bonhams 95 1984 Ferrari 308GTS QV 51941 150 - 250k
    RM 140 1984 Ferrari 512BBi 48165 250 - 325k
    B-J 1426 1986 Ferrari Testarossa 63631 ??
    RM 113 1986 Ferrari Testarossa 61481 130 - 160k
    Worldwide 24 1986 Ferrari 328GTS 59995 45 - 65k
    Gooding 125 1988 Ferrari 328GTB 75912 140 - 180k
    RM 112 1988 Ferrari 328GTS 76919 90 - 120k
    RM 216 1988 Ferrari Testarossa 76424 170 - 200k
    RM 219 1990 Ferrari F40 86678 1.25 - 1.5 mil.
    Bonhams 100 1991 Ferrari Testarossa 88381 125 - 150k
    Bonhams 81 1993 Ferrari 512TR 94762 250 - 325k
    Gooding 155 1993 Ferrari 348TS Serie Speciale 95227 130 - 160k
    RM 260 1993 Ferrari 512TR 94507 200 - 250k
    Bonhams 14 1995 Ferrari 456GT 99988 90 - 120k
    RM 227 1995 Ferrari F50 104092 3 - 3.5 mil.
    Gooding 102 1996 Ferrari F355 Spider 105459 100 - 120k
    RM 126 1998 Ferrari F355 F1 Spider 112320 100 - 150k
    Gooding 15 1999 Ferrari F355GTS F1 115657 95 - 110k
    RM 221 2001 Ferrari 456M GT 124619 150 - 225k
    Gooding 48 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello 129484 180 - 240k
    Gooding 143 2002 Ferrari F360 Modena 129362 100 - 130k
    Gooding 148 2002 Ferrari F575M 129306 350 - 425k
    RM 257 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello 129467 200 - 250k
    Bonhams 15 2003 Ferrari Enzo 132650 2.8 - 3.2 mil.
    Bonhams 26 2003 Ferrari F360 Modena 130753 85 - 125k
    RM 151 2003 Ferrari Enzo ZFFCW56A330133026 2.7 - 3 mil.
    B-J 1314 2004 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale 138421 ??
    Gooding 29 2004 Ferrari F360 Spider 136806 130 - 150k
    Gooding 59 2004 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale 138116 350 - 450k R
    Gooding 110 2004 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale 139041 250 - 300k
    Worldwide 55 2005 Ferrari 575 Superamerica #143339 375 - 450k
    Gooding 131 2006 Ferrari F430 Challenge #145768 140 - 160k
    B-J 1334 2011 Ferrari California #181555 ??
    Gooding 51 2011 Ferrari 599SA Aperta #181885 1.2 - 1.4 mil.
     
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  2. Parnelli

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    GREAT piece!! Thanks
     
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    I always thought that it was Americans that love to make plurals possessive, but now I see it's a worldwide scourge! arrrrgh! :)


    Holy crap, 1980 308 GTB for $200-240k?!? 1984 308 GTSi QV for $150-250k?!?
    Whoa....
     
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    I always thought that it was Americans that love to make plurals possessive, but now I see it's a worldwide scourge! arrrrgh! :)


    Holy crap, 1980 308 GTB for $200-240k?!? 1984 308 GTSi QV for $150-250k?!?
    Whoa....
     
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    GTB is verde medio metallizzato. Incredible (and rare) if you're into other than red.

    GTS was driven on Magnum P.I. by Tom Selleck.
     
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    The market is still strong and has flattened out, but a high % of these cars won't make minimum or right at plus many no sales. I saw very few estimates in list that weren't optimistic.
     
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    I believe that 1980 GTB is a European carb car - one of the last made - and it would be a dry sump as well if it is Euro spec -- huge difference in value between a US spec 2 valve injected 1980 GTB. Nevertheless, still strong estimates but I would think the car should still at least pull 150k
     
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    Yes it is a European car delivered first in Italy that stayed in Italy before being bought by last/ current owner. Carbs and dry sump, and all engine out serviced plus brakes etc before he took delivery, plus cosmetics. Perfect car if you are in rare colors, rumor says there were only 5 verde medio metalizzato made in period.
    Just will be interesting how much people are willing to pay for that!
     
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    #0196A sold at c5.8 mil. + comms, 6.4 all in.
     
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    275 for $1.575m without com!
     
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    #08973 sold for $1.575 mil. net, approx. $1.73 million all in against 2.5 mil low estimate. Probably a case of high estimate but still a very low sale price.
     
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    Non matching, wrong nose and some other defects.

    Ciao
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    If we are talking about #08973, the engine was replaced under factory warranty in period and it has been restored by Mototechnique and classiched. Nit picking or real concerns?
     
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    California not sold @ $10.65 mil.
     
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    Daytona #14393 failed @ $540k
     
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    That is the 2nd daytona no sale no?
     
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    I thought the California was a no sale?
     
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    I wondered that but was waiting for Bonhams site to update to confirm, the auctioneer didn't say sold but the clapping and the lack of commentary either way didn't help. Will check and edit my post.
     
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    He said well done no?
     
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    Yes it is. Everything at Bonhams has appeared to sell low (or not sell) when compared to estimates. My explanation is Bonhams estimates were high (remind me of 2014 prices) and I think most high bids are market correct for early 2017.
     
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    seems to me the more spirited bidding is in the sub $100,000 cars ?
     
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    It did sell.
     
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    No sale for the Vetroresina i think
     
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    Yes he did. $10.65 million (11.715 all in) should be enough to buy an open headlight non comp. California, I would be surprised if a post block deal isn't completed. Huge premium for closed headlights but thats market value for ya.
     
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