Differences in parts between QV FI and QV DD engines?

Cams are the biggest difference. Cams for emissions will always be milder and they are found in the FI engine. I have personally measured the difference on the 2 valve engine cams and calculated the performance hit. The 2 valve engine mirrors the QV. For the 2 valve engine I get 322 hp for the emissions engine vs 375 hp for the Euro engine. This compares well with the 422 hp QV FI versus the 455 hp QV DD.

Cheers Jim

 

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Thanks Jim ,then replace the exhaust with tubular headers and remove the exhaust remove 200 lbs of dot bumpers,and there you go

 

Good point,i will split the bill with you

 

A fulie given the same exhaust as a dd, no cats, do not understand why Joe keeps pounding me with the us spec fulie,versus the euro dd.comparo. It is,at this point,borderline retarded.

 

Oh yea it is, fuelie ,non cat ,dd exhaust ,remove the 200lbs dot jewlery.and there you have it ,no ide why you keep bringing up this stock us fuelie spec car, versus the euro dd.

 

I just wish they would have made my 6.0 in carb instead of FI.....

Why they went the SLOW FI route I have no idea...such a slow
POS.

 

Dont worry... One day he will get a Qv Fuelie for-sale, and we will have the Qv Fuelie Appreciation thread!

 

Do you just make this stuff up as you go along?

I think professional photographer Aaron Kiley, who personally took these images http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144273787-post2.html (and gave them to me), would be sure that he was on location at Ford Motor Company Proving Ground (MPG) @ Romeo, Michigan.

 

You mean like the 89 Anniversary cars he was selling a while back...

REMEMBER. At least I do as him saying they were "the best" of the variant!

I guess it just depends what you have available to "broker" out at the time.

 

Thats entirely possible, although at this point in my life a bit unlikely

That said, whatever the case, I certainly would never go on and on ad nauseum grasping at straws in an attempt to show that something own might be partially as potent as something else.

Just be happy with what you have, there is no need to cast dispersions, doubt or disparage what you do not have. All it suggests is that you want what you do not have, but are unhappy with admitting the virtues of the other variant.

Just accept that the Fuelie and the Downdraft are different they have different engines with different components, and the net result is that the Downdraft is both significantly more powerful and faster than a Fuelie. End of story. This doesn't mean that a Fuelie is bad, it simply means it is, well, let's just say, different

 

LOL... maybe he is senile. The GM proving grounds are in Michigan as well.. So unless Ford was allowing GM to use its proving ground... I DOUBT IT

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Wait, ones you bought a boatload of too late in the market bell-curve on their way down and you couldn't sell? Those ones?

 

He lives in Michigan, he knows the difference, and regularly shot cars at BOTH proving grounds.

You have absolutely nothing to back up your story besides what you want it to be, on the other hand, I could personally put you in touch with Aaron Kiley to verify his shooting location for this car.

Again, do you just make this stuff up as you go along?

As I said, you just can't be happy with what you have and give the other more potent variant its due. The only way you can live with what you have is to disparage the other variant.

Truly truly sad.

 

Jim, unfortunately, this relevant & factual mechanical data is lost on QV Fuelie owners who just cannot accept reality.

 

Whats truly truly sad, is lets say it WAS tested at the Ford Proving Ground, the car was still 100% owned by GM not Ford, and where they tested it is of no consequence.... But you cling to the least important information to cover up all the other misleading information you posted.

I do agree that the Fuelie is different... Its more Rare... it runs better in all conditions, and is more reliable...

 

What you really want is a Downdraft, that much is clear.

Meanwhile this thread has served its purpose to highlight the differences, yet again.

 

Factual data? I guess Peter Dron is a liar... Everyone's Car and Driver other than yours must be a misprint... Valentino must of made up the stories of Top speed runs with modified cars...

 

Ill tell you what.. If you prove your performance claims.. ILL BUY YOUR DOWNDRAFT. Until that day... I dont want a downdraft.

And I agree, it has highlighted your falsely claimed differences related to performance.

 

LOL. yep...all gone now....

So what did you tell your 89 car customers when you were feeding them BS to sell them
The 89 cars you had. ??

Were you feeding them the same LINE OF BS as City of LA Transit workers on investments/life insurance?

You are such a POS! If only the truth was out...

Go ahead and ask the mods to suspend me...it's worth it to
Let everyone know what a FULL OF CRAP "carpetbagger" you are.

Go back to England...oh wait...no one in Europe wants you back...so
We are stuck with you and your constant BS.

As far as "Vale" goes, who by the way thinks your an ASS!

He still needs to survive not that he is retired and happy to
Make comments and all the rest as he is compensated for...he is NOT YOUR good Buddy as
you attempt to make all believe...YOUR full of BS on that.

Shall we ask him what you compensated him for his input??

He, I can say is truly a family friend of me and mine. I would and will never use his NAME
to further something of $$$ value to
Me.

You should be ashamed of yourself to use him in this manner!

FRICKN screw you Mr Joe "SOS" Sackey

 

Oh. and let your Lawyer know I am at the SAME address as the LAST 5 letters
he has sent me on your behalf...

But I will do the same with it as all the rest...

WIPE MY ASS with them 👍

 

We should destroy all Video history of Miami Vice and the SLOW
POS Countachs cars they used. 😩😩

 

Sure.

 

Such a bitter person

The topic is "Differences in parts between QV FI and QV DD engines", do you have anything relevant to contribute, or are you just drunk again, Roy?

 

I have driven both 4 valve variants extensively, I can assure you that the DD sound, acceleration pull, responsiveness and the overall driving experience is by far superior with carbs. The FI QV is not a slouch, it has a progressive acceleration while, when a DD hits that magic RPM number of 4,500, ...... Regarding reliability, after 18 years + of ownership I can attest that, if properly maintained, there are no issues (such as carb regulation) what-so-ever. A recent comment of a DD Countach by a prestigious broker and a picture of the powerplant:
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