Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

this thread has got beyond silly now.

 

Well that was the only thing I contested apart from the braking from 300kph in 150m claim... and lets' not forget the '80m' marker on Hangar straight, aka the 120m marker and braking from 160-80mph in 80m.

I'm not trying to prove the 918 is slow around a track, and I don't think it is, simply pointing out that 6:57 isn't really that fast for a hypercar, it could probably better, which is why I don't understand these assertions that a P1 never did a sub-7 minute lap. It wouldn't even be difficult.

 

So the plot thickens, they used a VW style testing ECU cheat to fool the dyno and the same ECU presumably then pulled out an extra 100hp during the lap?

We should be able to bottle and sell this stuff.

 

I don't actually speak when I type, don't know about what's going over on your side though.

That probably wasn't the analogy you wanted to use given that he always triumphs in the end.

I know it's true that it wasn't a typo. The context of the conversation, the previous post and what you were trying to prove made it obvious that it wasn't a typo. You were trying to prove the braking point was after 200m wrt Westview's post, to prove that the Grand Tour lap must have been from a standing start, hence why you said '150m' and it was only when I pointed out that even a 919 Hybrid couldn't brake that fast that all this 'typo' BS started.

The one in black is you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEcj8KpuJw&t=150

 

Three of those are wrong actually.

 

That's what you THINK. And whatever you THINK are mostly wrong anyway.

So now you are telling me that you know better than me on what I am trying to type? Like how you tell actual cars owners what their car are actually doing? That you know much better about the cars from watching Youtube videos?

Hmm, interesting theory. Is it like a science-fi neural network spying system through Wi-Fi? That you can detect and read other people's brain waves and knows what will happen even before the person act on it?

That's awesome dude. Keep dreaming up cool stuff like this!

 

Whoopsy, just ignore the guy and post pictures and stories of your cars. That's what I'm interested in.

 

You mean like these pics?
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Yes! Those wheels look great on the car. How does it drive with them? Do you notice any difference?

 

I agree with ignoring Mycroft and his alternative facts. Life's too short.

 

That's frickin' awesome! Whistler? Them some seriously large snow tires.

 

Only got to look at the Lap times for the press cars, to work out that the ring time SV was a very special car.......But not you eh....Lol

 

No, it's what I am absolutely certain is correct, it was a deliberate falsehood to support a flawed argument. If I hadn't pointed out that the figure was BS, you would never have mentioned anything about a typo. And the most humorous element was the fact another owner claimed braking from 160-80mph in 80m to try and support your claim before you decided to get out in front of it.

Still waiting to hear whether that was a typo too.

 

You mean like these press lap times:

918 - 7:13 (Sport Auto)
SV - 7:15 (Auto Zeitung Sport & Luxury Cars)



Have you ever entertained the possibility/fact that the 'ring is just a really bad measure of track performance because there are a million variables stretched out over 7 minutes? It's really like using a drive from London to Glasgow to measure performance... well not quite as bad, but hopefully you get the point. No one has ever driven a perfect lap of the 'ring, or close, and no one ever will.

 

And you are absolutely the only one in the whole world to think that way haha. People with normal brain had already seen the time stamps and know what actual happened, I post, go to sleep, come back and see the mistake and that's it, no one even pay any attention to your twisted 'facts'.

Gee I wonder why. (Maybe because you simply have zero credibility on the internet?)

While you are busy living happily in your own little alternate universe, trying to fit everything square objects into your round holes and failing, I am enjoying my cars to the fullest, even in winter and snow.

 

Yes Whistler. The tires are actually surprising small. The wheels are custom sized HREs one inch narrower than stock, 245/40-20 in the front and 275/35-21 in the rear.

 

I take your point on the ring, the weather can vary around the track on a single lap....

But I can tell you this, on the SCD I beat the P1 and the Lafa fair and square. But due to the short notice from my friend Paul, I did not have chance to arrange track day cover, so I did the V-Max and Santa runs on a reduced throttle, I did not wish to bend my Million Plus car.

So whist the 918 won the day, there was more left on the table. Now I am no race driver. The P1 and Lafa had pro race drivers and full track cover and they still lost. Thats why I only did the one run at Santa, to risky and still set a time the lafa and P1 could not match.....

I can tell you the producers were left scratching their heads, how can a simple hobbyist in a 918 beat 2 race drivers in Lafa and P1...Lol

 

I will reply for him.

You lied. That can't be true. It didn't happened even when you are there driving. You have absolutely no idea what you were doing. There is no Youtube video to support you!

Done. End Game. Any questions? Yeah? The answer is still no, you lied, you lost, you don't have Youtube to support your claim so that didn't happened. You only beat the p1 and Laferrari in your dreams.

 

Lol.....
It was like the MT test, with Randy etc......you know the script Rons says its the best etc. Only going to be one outcome.....

 

Sure. It just happened to be a typo that seemed to validate the post you were replying too and the argument being made by your sidekicks at the time, i.e. that the 200m marker was before the braking zone. But at least you admit that the braking zone is before the 200m marker now, so that's some kind of progress, an admission to one lie inadvertently also admitted to a second lie. So your 'team' was wrong one way or the other anyway. Also wrong about the 200m marker being after the pit exit. So wrong, wrong and wrong. I make that a hat-trick.

That still leaves the 160-80mph in 80m in a 991 GT3RS on Hangar Straight, still waiting to hear if that's a typo or not. That point, equally as ridiculous was left unresolved. And I fear those are the kinds of 'facts' we're being fed here.

I can't speak for you but I personally don't like putting any objects in my round holes.

 

In the quarter mile you did. But let's face it, none of the cars ran a good quarter mile and the conditions were crap. Hence why the LaFerrari ran 11s.

The mile run was already done by Autocar, and the P1 won even with bad traction conditions, so that one's done and dusted.

Silverstone National, a pro driver drove all 3 cars and the P1 won. Yes it was on Trofeo Rs but then they could have been really unfair to the 918 and used the GP track instead. It should also be noted that your 918 is about the quickest out there.

 

California tests, only applicable to California. 91 octane, sandy track, so surprise surprise, the car with AWD, the lowest hp/L and the highest % of power from EV won. Porsche never stepped up to the big boy tracks, and when it stepped up to an intermediate speed track it lost.

 

After the V-MAX and Santa runs, producer said.......

" Wish we had you for the Silverstone lap times"
I Said
"But Matts a very good driver better than me?"

"Yes but we did not use all the systems' on the 918 like you do. Also we ran the Batts down in some filming before the runs. We did not understand the effect this has"

I know the National track well, with the 918 set to optimum. ,Ie, batts at 70%, HL mode, TPs at 31-34. All Aids left on. The 918 has to much of torque advantage round the long corners. Sorry but 918 would have been quicker.

Also like I said, Paul wanted the P1 to win....

Lol, my car again. How about some credit for the driver Please?

 

So magazines can indeed be biased,can't they?

 

The media can't slant the truth? gee I never would have guessed...