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Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

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  1. Igor Ound

    Igor Ound F1 Veteran

    Sep 30, 2012
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    They can't handle the truth of true handling
     
  2. Lieven

    Lieven Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2016
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    #21227 Lieven, Jan 29, 2017
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    More stories. Every time the 918 loses there's a story to tell. Same crap when Harris ran at Portimao. Oh he wanted the P1 to win. Oh he short-shifted the 918/LaFe.

    It truly is an amazing phenomenon. When the P1 wins, even though the g-meter is practically off the scale on every corner and braking zone for all cars, the driver wasn't trying. Yet in Salomondrin's tests where a damn ACR fails to achieve 1.0g in a corner, it's all completely legit. How is the weather up there?

    Did you look at the g-meter in the SCD test? The 918 in the final corner, highest g during any of the 3 laps. But driver wasn't trying? Then I guess by extension, he must have been really tootling along in the other two. None of the crap you come out with stacks up, sorry. Not the 160-80mph in 80m and not this either.

    Here is the driver in question, clearly sandbagging in 918 at 1.3g in 50mph and 60mph corners with zero camber. Must have been really sandbagging in the P1 on Trofeo Rs, only pulling 1.2g in the same corners. The real truth is that the P1 handled the two faster corners better, surprise surprise. Faster apex speed, faster exit speed, then through the 3 hairpins the 918 was better. That's just the raw principle of the P1 vs 918 equation. P1 likes fast, 918 likes slow. It doesn't mean that either is better, they're both good at different things.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG13CTDMCXI
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  3. Lieven

    Lieven Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2016
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    Everyone can be biased except the g-meter. The idea that a driver can pull those gs and then deliberately produce a lap time to within two tenths of a second slower than another car is pretty far-fetched though. But then in a world of braking from 300kph in 150m and 160-80mph in 80m, anything is possible.:D
     
  4. boyko23

    boyko23 Formula Junior

    Jan 22, 2014
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    Lol,
    Just name only one of them, which is wrong and we'll have a new definition of a lyer. Just one... :)
     
  5. Mclarenf1gtrlm

    Mclarenf1gtrlm Karting

    Oct 27, 2016
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    #21230 Mclarenf1gtrlm, Jan 29, 2017
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    Well he said the driver wanted P1 to win but if correctly tested 918 would have won that's why I asked it.Not going against or offencing him in anyway.

    This reminds me of Top Gear and Road And Track in the top list.
     
  6. Mclarenf1gtrlm

    Mclarenf1gtrlm Karting

    Oct 27, 2016
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    That could be a typo though,I myself had made some of those but sometimes it became too late to correct.If someone was lying in the forum,I would have already known.
     
  7. Lieven

    Lieven Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2016
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    #21232 Lieven, Jan 29, 2017
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    Have you ever copy and pasted something you found on a forum?

    I'll leave you guessing though, just like you were earlier. Remember this horse poo?

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/145124187-post20668.html

    So many people were posting diarrhetically over those few pages. Good times. One person saying the braking point from 300kph was at 150m, one person saying 160-80mph in 80m, you claiming braking point is after the pit exit (100m). So much wrong in such a short space of time. And that's only the BS that can be proven to be BS. If we included all the hearsay and gossip added by you three, we'd be neck deep in the stuff.:D
     
  8. Lieven

    Lieven Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2016
    885
    Little too convenient given the post he was replying too and the point being made if you ask me. Then you have the 160-80mph in 80m, which hasn't even been owned up to yet and the claim that the braking zone was after the pit exit, which is actually at the 100m marker. Good one boyko, got to hand it to you for going one dafter. 300-100kph in less space than magazines testers can manage from 200-0kph.

    Some people have some very dangerous expectations of their brakes.:D
     
  9. boyko23

    boyko23 Formula Junior

    Jan 22, 2014
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    Don't try to run out of the question. Which nick name is wrong?
     
  10. Lieven

    Lieven Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2016
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    For me to know and for you to puzzle over.
     
  11. Mclarenf1gtrlm

    Mclarenf1gtrlm Karting

    Oct 27, 2016
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    #21236 Mclarenf1gtrlm, Jan 29, 2017
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    Using that logic didn't you claim that P1 lapped 1;19 at Anglessey GP and you too wouldn't have corrected it if someone didn't pointed them out,if it was an honest mistake,same could be the case here.Remember I also read the other posts posted here while I was talking with F40 LM.
    And also if you want to gain others trust you should learn to trust others as why would one trust you when you can't trust others.
     
  12. Westview

    Westview Formula Junior

    Nov 2, 2014
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    I feel fortunate not to be able to read Mycroft's direct posts, but unfortunately do see some of his nonsensical responses via quotes.

    I see he is going for yet another one of his alternative facts: that Apolo1 has some sort of 918LM version that is different than what any other 918 owner has. The fact is that Apolo's car has very similar performance to other 918 cars out there. The Car and Driver results are linked below, and I am quite sure it is not Apolo's car, as he is based in the UK and Car and Driver is in the US.

    Performance Data and Complete Specs

    Obviously day to day results will vary depending on track temp, etc, but his results are very much in line with this and other tests, eg. Motor Trend.

    If I were Whoopsy or any other 918 owner, I would be screaming blue bloody murder if my car was significantly slower than Apolo's car. But they aren't, because they do have these types of performance levels.

    This is unlike say, a factory run Aventador SV that is magically within a couple of seconds of a 918 on the N-ring, and then when Salomondrin tests the SV it is one of the slowest of the ordinary supercars, let alone hypercars. Strange.
     
  13. Apolo1

    Apolo1 Karting

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    Also in the SV test that Randy did, it was like a donkey in comparison to the ring time car. Not hard to join the dots...
     
  14. Whoopsy

    Whoopsy Formula Junior

    Dec 6, 2012
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    Hmm, this reminded me something.

    Your first account was banned here, that means you sidestepped the forum rules in order to create an alternate identity to continue your trolling here.

    Isn't that grounds for banning and account? Maybe a Mod should look this over.
     
  15. Scuderia980

    Scuderia980 F1 Rookie

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    it is, that's why I've wondered how he's managed to last this long. the dude has been straight up trolling from day one, over a year ago. his arguments/debate/discussion is simply trolling wrapped in a different package. also jumping from forum to forum...the dude is a troll addicted to internet forums...funny and sad.
     
  16. boyko23

    boyko23 Formula Junior

    Jan 22, 2014
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    Once again - which nick name is wrong?
    You just got shot in the leg...
     
  17. Mclarenf1gtrlm

    Mclarenf1gtrlm Karting

    Oct 27, 2016
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    #21242 Mclarenf1gtrlm, Jan 30, 2017
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  18. Lieven

    Lieven Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2016
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    Or maybe mods should ban people who'll claim braking from 300kph in 150m, braking from 160-80mph in 80m and people who'll generally claim anything to support a case. E.g. the guy who ran the test sabotaged his own car to deceive people, but also told them what he did, LOL.

    Maybe if those people were banned we could have a sensible conversation about real events where the laws of physics actually apply.
     
  19. Lieven

    Lieven Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2016
    885
    Guess and scratch your head a little. My leg is fine Mr. 300kph braking zone is at 100m marker bloke.
     
  20. Lieven

    Lieven Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2016
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    #21245 Lieven, Jan 30, 2017
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    :D

    Second lap was 2:15.2. I rest my case. So did Whoopsy/Apolo just get caught out telling porkies again?
     
  21. kingjr9000

    kingjr9000 Formula 3

    Sep 16, 2014
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    Well, you do have one of the forum names' itself wrong. You have "GermanCarFans", its actually "GermanCarForum".
     
  22. boyko23

    boyko23 Formula Junior

    Jan 22, 2014
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    You just gave another evidence, that 918 is faster, because The almighty Sroser has claimed fastest lap on this circuit for the P1 - 2.15.000
    http://fastestlaps.com/tests/vjvvd4prnsag

    Dear Sroser - now you have a YT video, so it is a proven fact, right??? We play according all your rules!!!

    Please be so kind to edit the record at fastestlaps.com by YOURSELF...

    hahahahahahahaha
     
  23. boyko23

    boyko23 Formula Junior

    Jan 22, 2014
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    Sorry, it's a "typo" haha
     
  24. kingjr9000

    kingjr9000 Formula 3

    Sep 16, 2014
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    Okay. You're good then.
     
  25. Mclarenf1gtrlm

    Mclarenf1gtrlm Karting

    Oct 27, 2016
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    Okay.But given the choice I would still choose P1 over 918.He also proved that he likes cars for performance figures only.And even if P1 is faster than F1 it still isn't the worthy successor to it in my eyes.

    Anyway,why does he now request P1's time to be removed from the leaderboard?Removing it just because it is slower than 918 is pretty lame.I am surprised that he couldn't find 918's video faster than I could.
     

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