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'Official' F12M Rumours and Launch

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  1. carlom001

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    There is a lot going on with this update - similar to TDF. Atelier believes, and I agree with this, that the lighter colours will contrast better with the various vents and CF (if optioned) elements. I am thinking Grigio Titanio, Grigio Ferro Met or a lighter shade of a blue.
     
  2. carlom001

    carlom001 Formula Junior

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    no Hybrid for F12M, and just a smile when I asked the global PM about the next generation
     
  3. Traveller

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    I have started to hear that. I was thinking of Pozzi but could find my way back to GT, GS and as you and my dealer say, if you option a lot of the carbon exterior, you want the contrast. And then he said matte grey would look great with all carbon extras but I cannot go there.

    Anyone mentioned weight or price yet?
     
  4. Maximus1973

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    Fantastic update, thank you Carlom. Getting more and more anxious for Geneve. I'll probably be attending the 14th. Sooooo happy I preordered mine!
     
  5. Shack

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    I had my heart set on tdf blue with Nero interior and NO CF but rather silver/white trim to offset the blue and black.

    I will however go to atelier
     
  6. Solid State

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    Agree. Were this the actual car it would be a step backward!

    Definitely a lazy effort. Nothing going on there.

    The bar for the F12VS will be as high for the LE contenders as the LaF Aperta was for hypercar contenders. No doubt in my mind. This is the one that will appreciate. You might as well call it, dare I say, the last true GTO worthy V12! Will stock up on the popcorn.
     
  7. ingegnere

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    #2057 ingegnere, Feb 8, 2017
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    I agree. I think this car will be absolutely stunning in a lighter metallic color, or maybe even a darker grey, as these will show off the bold and complex surfaces of the door as well as the subtle details like the vent on the front fender/hood and rear quarter and the scoop around the quarter window.

    Red, especially a non-metallic, will tend to flatten these details although the contrasting black grille and the complex headlights will stand out more. You can see for yourselves - apologies for the re-post and eye test - as I'm pretty sure this is a unintentional, serendipitous snap of the front of the styling buck in red, complete with hint of full-width front spoiler and turning vane at the front corner:
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  8. JagShergill

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    That's a v cathartic process you've undertaken and nice mindset- totally agree! Also from what I've just had confirmed the f12M you are getting is going to be a monumental bundle of fun !
     
  9. patekswiss

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    geez give it a rest
     
  10. Honken

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    Okey, so it will have front arc fender vents like the Porsche 991 GT3 RS?
     
  11. Honken

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    From the blurred image it looks like the hood have a middle part that's is reflecting lights. So I can imagine that the hood have some deeper side parts like the Enzo. It feels like the side of the car have some sort of Testarossa (F512M) style or like the 250 TR.
     
  12. Solid State

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    Headlights, vents at the headlights, aero bridge (tunnel), shields and arch gills all that close to each other? Hard to pull off cleanly I would think.

    Addressing the comments that the car would not look good in red, especially non-metallic, seems that all the full covered cars, camo cars, the slipped pic above, new launch non-metallic color and even the decorative plates were in red.
     
  13. DK308

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    And if 2022, possibly a new V6 car of some sort. So the list I've posted up before, seems to hold up.
     
  14. DK308

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    If the F12M has a 5 year life, the first car to be hybrid will either be a new V6 platform, or the Cali T replacement - it can't really be done in any other way. Some argue that the 488 VS will be a non-turbo hybrid, but I doubt that very much. Wishful thinking.
     
  15. ingegnere

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    #2066 ingegnere, Feb 9, 2017
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    No arch gills, just the exit of the aero-tunnel, as you astutely describe it. This will partly exit at the hood and continue along the top at the rear of the front fender.

    As regards fender gills, the tdf slits at the back served the same purpose as on 911 GT3, where pressure built up in the wheel well is vented to outside static pressure. On F12M, I believe the "tunnel" at the back formed by scoop behind quarter window and vent at the back will draw the pressure in the wheel well through more of a venturi effect. Come to think of it, maybe the tunnel at the front will do the same. Same effect, no messy gills!

    BTW, I just stated that a red will not show off the surfaces and details as much as a metallic color, but certainly will be nice. Also, it was noted that one of the last mules snapped appeared to be yellow.
     
  16. carlom001

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    "Tunnel" is there to only increase downforce. No impact on wheel well pressure release as performed by TDF gills
     
  17. Roland1688

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    Carlom, may we know how you compare F12M to TDF in terms of exterior? Which one do you prefer?
     
  18. Traveller

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    That's the question I keep on asking. In what order, in aesthetic terms, do you rank the three variants?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  19. ingegnere

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    Tunnel by itself will do nothing for downforce unless it drives some other aero characteristics.

    If you can draw out pressure from the wheel well, you reduce lift by reducing the effect of the positive pressure acting on the underside of the fender. This is exactly what vents on GT3, tdf and F12b rear fender tops do.
     
  20. Wheels1

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    Ferrari said on the link above :-
    I am asumming it is a quote from the factory:-
    "The rear has a look of the Daytona about it"
    Could be a hint.
     
  21. greyboxer

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    No I think he's just a dealer re-quoting the banned description
     
  22. carlom001

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    I really do not have a preference as all three have unique characteristics that are pleasing in their own way. I certainly don't think that the M has suddenly made the F12B or TDF look old or dated. From an exterior aesthetics perspective, the M is certainly more dramatic and less elegant than the F12B if one was to compare them side by side, but compared to the TDF both are equally dramatic but using different design elements to achieve this effect. It is clear with the M that Pininfarina is no longer the designer. I have to stress that each are appealing in their own way and to me one is not less or more preferred than the other at all. I know it looks like I am sitting on the fence but I would happily have all three in my garage and would appreciate them equally for their unique design elements and what they bring to the table.
     
  23. Honken

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    +1
     

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