355 Engine Height

Many guys here have done this with a 4 post so I'd say it's fine but Mitch (yelcab) is an expert at it and he would be the better one to ask as he has done this many times.

Perhaps he will chime in - if not, send him a PM.

 

We just used movers dolly
When I was young they would just drop the motor on me and pull me out on the creeper

Far as lifts go either is fine

I am getting both, a 4 poster for the front driveway and a 2 poster in the rear I can use on bikes and buggys


BTW why is a new porsche parked in front of my house? icky

 

Hanging the car off the ass end of a 4 post is really no different than a 2 post and the same jerky motion is present in both

 

You are never lifting the unsupported, engine containing, cantilevered rear of the car. The rear is projected off the lift and and that point the engine is supported via your dollies/cart and the lift point of the car is also supported.

When the lift is activated it is lifting the car sans engine. The projected part is the empty engine day without bumper. The balance of the car is fairly evenly didtributed on the lift albeit skewed to one end but IMO not drastically so.

 

Trust me, it's the same (If using the same lift points)

Hanging the ass off a 4 post is no different than doing so off a 2 post if those points are the same - it's the same moment arm. (this does assume a rigid connection to the floor)

When I lift my GTS, the roof panel and top of door jams separate just a bit from the load.

 

Agree which would argue against that approach imo. All of the methods I have seen posted have not been done like that but rather as I described.

I may be missing something but that is my understanding. The car is projected off the lift, wheels on. It is jacked up at that point, wheels off, engine supported.

I don't think the car is actually cantilevered off with unsupported engine.

I have not done it yet but I have played it out on my lift and that is hoe I envision it happening.

 

It should be noted that Pros use 2 post lifts there are no issues with the method. The 4 post works with a little extra work.

This document might be of use to you.

Note - I need to make one revision - I now use a slightly different place in the front.....

The front of the rocker panel are has a rubber plug with a hole. My suspicion is the hole is a factory point for a dolly / overhead transfer. I remove the plug and put the lift pickup there.
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White is best. Easy to keep clean, easy to find stuff and the best part is how much light it reflects on to the bottom of the car. A friend just bought a house with one of those speckled gray finishes and he hates it. He says if you drop something it is gone.

 

It does reflect a lot but I put more work than I would like into keeping it clean. Always cleaning up tire marks and things that may not be as noticeable on something well, not white.

It is super easy to find stuff.

 

Don't have either. Could ask the girlfriend but then I'd have to let her in the garage

 

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/348-355-sponsored-bradan/234071-355-engine-out-4-post-hoist-safe-way-pictures.html

Here's a thread by cf355 who did his with a 4 post. Note how he raises the car to get the fillies under using jacks and not the lift and his caveat not to use the lift at this point.

A 4 post lift uses cables at all 4 corners and with the car cantilevered off the rear like that most if not all the weight is on the rear two cables only. You don't use the lift itself until the engine is disconnected from the car. At that point the lift is only lifting the empty weight of the car on those two rear cables

As I said, I don't think using the lift to lift the cantilevered intact car is a good idea.

 

As an example, the Bedpak's 4 post start at a capacity of 7,000 lbs and that most certainly has a safety factor. So, that's 3500 for the rear alone which is more than what a 355 weighs and the load is still a distributed load and not a point load on the rear posts.

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Personally, I would not do this job on a 4 post even though others have done so being innovative. I also would not do it with the 2 jack method. But that's just me. YMMV

 

I would not use a 4 post lift in that manner. Never. You are at the limits of the lifting capacity of the post on one end like that.

Get a hydraulic table of adequate capacity and take the engine out then lift it to your desired work height. You don't have to max out your lift and you won't have overall vertical issues.

 

This guy shows the best example of a hydraulic table use I've ever seen as he incorporated a custom cradle to it and it looks welded to the hydraulic lift table.

However, it looks less than safe from side-to-side tip over so I'd be careful doing this also.

Nothing beats a properly designed, purpose built stand that is very close to the Ferrari designed stand.

However, some would not agree even if the cure for cancer was found
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