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F12b, tdf or 812

Discussion in 'F12/812' started by Traveller, Feb 16, 2017.

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Given equal value, you could only have one in your garage-which one?

  1. F12b

  2. Tdf

  3. 812 SuperFast

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  1. Traveller

    Traveller F1 Veteran

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    Now that we have three variants of the F12, albeit many of us yesterday to see a SuperFast, given they were all of equal value, which one would you most want to see in your garage?
     
  2. rockitman

    rockitman F1 Veteran

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    Since I'm still a boy-ish racer at heart...TDF....then F12B.
     
  3. faykau

    faykau Formula Junior

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    tdf by and large looks the best. the tapered front looks the most aggressive imo. also the best b-piller design out of all.
     
  4. Pinarello

    Pinarello Karting

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    TdF for sure for me, more agressive experience I would pick that over the newer car enyday
     
  5. Camlet1

    Camlet1 Formula 3

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    Appreciate everyone has different boxes to tick. For me, the harder core the better. So the TDF is an easy winner.
     
  6. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

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    The thing that make me hesitate is the displacement. I have a fetish for it. 6.5 is bigger than 6.3...
     
  7. deltona

    deltona Formula 3

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    .....and a grey fetish too....like me!
     
  8. deltona

    deltona Formula 3

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    +1. I think the real telling poll will be that between F12b and 812Superfast as the tdf is simply not available to the 'great unwashed' like me.

    I think if you take the tdf out of the poll the F12b will probably get a lot of those votes.
     
  9. markonex

    markonex Formula Junior

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    Between 812 and f12, 812, but TDF looks just gorgeous, only can be compared with the future 488 VS
     
  10. Traveller

    Traveller F1 Veteran

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    That is going to be my next poll having done this.
     
  11. ChalStrad

    ChalStrad Formula 3

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    But then the weight plays in favor of the TdF , but comparing them is like apples and oranges anyway
     
  12. Zaius

    Zaius Formula Junior

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    #12 Zaius, Feb 16, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2017
    F12b without a doubt.

    TDF way too goofy/childish for a front V12. It really needs to be elegant you get the boyracer thing in the little mid engine v8s.

    New one really disappointing from photos so far but have to see it in person.

    http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2013/09/2014-Ferrari-F12-Berlinetta-side.jpg F12B side

    http://st.motortrend.ca/uploads/sites/42/2015/12/Ferrari-F12tdf-side.jpg TDF side. Overdone aero everywhere. How goofy does someone look getting out of this especially if they 40+ ?

    https://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/812_superfast_4_1.jpg?itok=xySkNBS2 812 superfast rear.

    http://cdn.speednik.com/files/2015/02/car-wallpaper-chevrolet-corvette-c7-stingray-2014-red-rear-640x468.jpg Corvette rear.

    Let be honest here. If you take off the Ferrari badge off the 812, how many people would seriously say Ferrari pops to their head when seeing the photos?
     
  13. tikitiki

    tikitiki Formula 3
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    TDF-812-F12 in that order for me.
     
  14. otakki

    otakki Formula 3
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    Based solely on the exterior, it will be F12, TDF, 812 for me.
     
  15. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

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    I don't agree on the fact that the 812 is a variant of the F12. It's an Evolution... The tdf is a hardcore, track friendly variant, no problem, but not the 812.

    It's another car, built has an evoluted F12 platform.
     
  16. Traveller

    Traveller F1 Veteran

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    Semantics? I agree the 812 is an evolution but then I wanted a word to apply generally to all three models and thought this explained it adequately for the purpose of choosing which of the three was the most preferred. And let's be fair, sort of looks like an F12!
     
  17. luckyguy

    luckyguy Karting

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    F12b class
    Tdf sporty
    812 'hey we need a new model!'

    I think 812 will be a success as it is a Ferrari, but guys let me say it is hard to do always better ..especially after perfection, all we loved f12b at first sight, don't we ?
     
  18. Ferrari 360 CS

    Ferrari 360 CS F1 Veteran

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    For me it would be TDF.

    Simply because the car is so raw even at low speeds that you can enjoy it driving as such and feel a very real sense of occasion. Like the 599 GTO before it the TDF always seems to feel edgy, yes it can cruise along but there is a large part of it saying "cmon get the revs up".

    I'll reserve judgement on the Superfast until I see it in the metal but perhaps some of the F12B elegance has been lost and I find it amazing they reference the Daytona in the press release, a car with such clean lines and largely devoid of scoops and air intakes...

    I'd love to hear Leonardo Fioravanti's comments....
     
  19. simsko

    simsko F1 Rookie

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    Depends entirely on the function. Dd than 812. Collector than tdf.
     
  20. marko.urbac

    marko.urbac Formula Junior

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    In this oreder: F12berlinetta, F12 TDF, 812 Superfast. Reason: Pininfarina.
     
  21. Garretto

    Garretto F1 Veteran

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    IMO the proper poll these days is F12b vs. 812s

    tdf should be left out for multiple reasons. Or else, you might as well add the F60 America... (but you really don't want!)

    I voted tdf because it's hardcore, but I reckon the pure design is that of the F12b.

    In the previous poll F12b vs. 812s of course I voted F12b. But that poll is gone!
     
  22. Traveller

    Traveller F1 Veteran

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    No it's still there! I just must have messed up with my first effort and the poll itself didn't make it but the thread with the poll is there.
     
  23. Garretto

    Garretto F1 Veteran

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    Good, thanks, sorry :)
     
  24. cridom60

    cridom60 Formula Junior

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    One question: what would be the impact on pricing of 812 over f12tdf!?

    I got this morning my dealer on the phone, presenting to me the opportunity to get an 812 beginning of next year, why not as I was not having the opportunity to get a TDF, and now do I have to put 850k€ or more on a tdf when the 812 will be around 325k€ with all necessary options, good question?
     
  25. saraojo

    saraojo Formula 3

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    Tdf, 812sf, f12b. Although I haven't seen the 812sf to make a call but 800 hp na motor sounds exciting.
     

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