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The Official Ferrari 812 SUPERFAST pictures thread

Discussion in 'F12/812' started by dcmetro, Feb 16, 2017.

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  1. TSOYBELIS

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    https://www.flickr.com/photos/leesam/22498685815/sizes/l

    This is from ''Sergio'' interior but I have seen this option another time.
    So much better than cf which looks plastic.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/shebalso/28226583986/sizes/k/

    Of course not many years ago MOMO wheels were far better and pure (F50) but it's a matter of another thread

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/darylchapman/25822714836/sizes/h/
     
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  2. DK308

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    Aah yes, the MOMO wheel. Much simpler times. Makes me miss my 355:)

    I think the wheel in the second picture has the Alutex finish which is different. What I'm talking about is a plane-jane alu wheel with an alu led strip on top.

    Not sure what's been done with the Sergio car. Looks very dark. Perhaps painted alu?
     
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    I'm sure they can. I'm also sure the price would other-worldly, as it's both somewhat expensive by itself and very difficult to work with. Ball polished titanium would also look the part for a rich and lush feel. I don't really understand the idea behind only having two stock things to choose from. There are so many materials and platings that would make beautiful interior trim bits.
     
  4. Milanno

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    Magnesium would be no different than aluminium. Ferrari needs to change surface treatment in order to achieve more "premium" look.

    You can find best examples in wrist watch industry. Contrast between matte, brushed and polished metal gives premium feeling. In Ferrari`s case, you have just matte finish that gives that plasticky (visual) feeling.

    http://www.ablogtowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Audemars-Piguet-Royal-Oak-Concept-Supersonnerie-aBlogtoWatch-2.jpg
     
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    Nice post! Ι think that we have to make comparisons not between each model but between each ferrari and cars from other manufacturers in the specific time. For example a testarossa (missing) back in the eighties was very futuristic compared to normal cars like a 812 is now.
     
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    Well, it is a kind of some kind of 'plastic' to the mass! Plastic is a very generic word and there are thousands of variations, cheap to very expansive. Fibers can be made out of certain plastic. So CF to me I only would use when it complements the looks of a car.
     
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    Magnesium corrodes faster than you can polish it. Would need some sort of really tough coating. Very soft, too.
     
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    Agreed. However, if one were to spec Magnesium via Tailor Made, one could also choose how the finish was done. Maybe they'd even do that with the alu in TM.

    That being said, I would not be surprised if Ferrari kept the finish of the alu "basic" so that many would opt for the overpriced CF tat. It's not like it would be super expensive. Many car manufactures have various kinds of alu trim pieces. Funny thing is, from the cheapest to the most luxurious manufacture, just about all of them have alu trim with a more premium finish that the one Ferrari uses. I mean the basic alu trim in a BMW 1 series is better finished!
     
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    Very true.

    There are some modern magnesium alloys that are way more corrosion resistant and stronger than old fashioned raw magnesium. But even with some kind of clearcoat on it, brushed, polished or the like magnesium would look great. Bugatti and a few others can make it work, so why not?
     
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    The intention wasn't to compare models but to allow a quick view of the evolution and design changes of GT models with front engines.that's the reason why the testarossa is missing in the photos but I entirely corroborate what you mentioned about the testarossa 1984 and it's revolutionary line which made it a legendary car.
     
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    Not that I would switch brands because of that BUT Aston Martin's DB11 has a lot of CF on offer too and for about half of what F. charges (when I remember correctly). So there is a big margin on it!
     
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    Magnesium car fires? No thanks.
     
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    The margin is unbelievable. Even with the Aston it's way overpriced. Wet carbon fiber is not expensive no matter who makes it - and it is not sophisticated nor has it anything to do with dry carbon fiber used in racing.
     
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    If your interior made from modern alloy magnesium catches fire, I think at that point, that's the least of your worries if you're still inside the car. As I also mentioned, there's some modern sophisticated magnesium alloys that are way safer and more durable than raw magnesium. You can be very sure that if magnesium were such a hazard, no manufacture would be allowed to use it in modern cars - yet they are so we must assume that the hazard with modern alloys are a non-issue.
     
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    I have had similar thoughts, every car I get in now has shiny carbon. I mean I love my matt carbon in the TDF , have had a good dose of it in 458 and F12, but just got a 488 Spider without, and love it. Looks like the aluminium finish shade is now darker, less silver and grey, and I think it looks so classy. Indeed, Ferrari spend a fortune putting aluminium in the car in the first place. Due to tooling costs I doubt we will get many other options than different finishes of both carbon and aluminium. Indeed my Lusso will not have carbon, I know some (majority probably) will demand it come resale, but equally it looks wonderful to me without. I think at the moment,it has become so over used and with so many plastic fake versions , it is worse than the fake aluminium that came before it. Each to their own of course, but I sense carbon has been over cooked. If I get it in the 812 it will be matt carbon.
     
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    I have no idea why some of you, gentlemans, have any problem with new steering wheel, especially in carbon fibre. It looks absolutely marvelous.
    0:38

    https://youtu.be/jXQoUTFUSx4?t=38s
     
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    It's a personal thing. I like the wheel, the CF however looks so tacky and cheap.
     
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    It isn't the magnesium clad occupant I was concerned about - more the poor fire fighters who have to deal with it.

    There is a reason why many UK motor sports venues ban mag wheels for instance - including alloys like ZK60 and MA-14. I have seen an F40 magnesium clutch bell housing on fire - nearly impossible for the marshals to tackle, with temperatures peaking at over 3000°C

    But as you say, may be these sophisticated alloys are very safe. You certainly will find out quicker (and hotter) than in my lowly leather clad car.
     
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    456 most classy - apart 500SF and Daytona
     
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    Great post!
    I would vote 550 Maranello as #1 and F12 as #2.
     
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    Well, I had the same thought but then I realized that the leather, plastic and foam under your balls are flammable too, so I think that the magnesium inserts in the dashboard would be the lesser of your problems.
     
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    Lol
     
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    :)
    Agree. As I said above, it's not the occupants, but the fire fighters. E.g.
    https://youtu.be/IxRJIOJqP3I
     

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