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The Official Ferrari 812 SUPERFAST pictures thread

Discussion in 'F12/812' started by dcmetro, Feb 16, 2017.

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  1. MalibuGuy

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    Totally agree.

    I predict the rear will look just fine in person.

    The 812 might look nice in a fancy triple layer yellow as opposed to the standard non metallic giallo.
     
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    #552 panjan, Feb 24, 2017
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    I think it would look great in TDF blue or Abu Dhabi blue. Especially gentlemans living in sunny places appriciate these colors, they looks just amazing in sunlight. So 812 with a lot of crazy curvers will be just stunning.
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  3. Garretto

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    FWIW, quick look at Wikipedia and it's confusing about this: "Superfast" seems to have been used before the 500, as in <<410 Superfast Pinin Farina Speciale
    also known as "Superfast I">>, maybe only unofficially? What can you add, please?

    (yes I'm sure I could find better sources than wikipedia for this info, you don't need to remind me ;) )
     
  4. Garretto

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    +1 Absolutely
     
  5. Maximus1973

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  6. of2worlds

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    #557 of2worlds, Feb 24, 2017
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    this 2009 Ferrari was also called the Superfast. It's simple lines expose the shortcomings of Ferrari Design efforts when they try too hard to be convincing...
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  7. ingegnere

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    I think that was Pininfarina. Bad mismatch (between panels) in the paint, too.
     
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    #559 of2worlds, Feb 24, 2017
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    Yes Ferrari stated in a press release that the Superfast was designed by Pininfarina. Ferrari Design led by Flavio Manzoniare are the ones who try too hard these days and don't have the Pininfarina touch for simple beauty in a design.
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  9. Solid State

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    Was wondering if anyone else noticed that the rear window vent on the 812 cuts straight through the gas cap and fuel overflow tube? Seems the strangest place to put an aero device. Any issue with fueling and you'll be blowing it out that vent and across the rear. Unless its all blocked off there which makes the device somewhat useless.
     
  10. JagShergill

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    Amazing - my fave so far !! Bellisimo !!!!!!!!!
     
  11. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Really great

    Any chance you might be able to produce something similar for Mid Engine V8 models 1976-2016?

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  12. ingegnere

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    Yeah, thought of that as soon as I realized the presence of the scoop. If the ducting I meant to work as I suspect, that is, to draw air out of the wheel well, it would sweep outboard over the wheel and away from the fuel filler mast and then widen at the exit to diffuse and expand the flow at the exit.

    Would expect the ducting does not communicate with fuel filler and is symmetrical with LHS.
     
  13. ingegnere

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    Sorry, hadn't fully grasped your original post because of the it's (instead of its).

    I agree that 812 is not a simple design, but doubt Ferrari were looking to do a retro car. BTW, guy's name is Manzoni.
     
  14. Lukeylikey

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    Not sure I really agree with you. The gold one-off superfast is indeed beautiful, flowing and voluptuous - very PF and really nicely done. Like a modern version of a much older car, designed under an older philosophy.

    If Ferrari were Bentley, that is excellent. But they're not. Nothing wrong with one-off celebrations in the style of cars past, but Ferrari must remain Ferrari, and that means performance and technology. Just like the cars from the race team have developed, so must the road cars. We knew this when Ferrari spent so much on their factory wind tunnel.

    So, even PF would have had to incorporate ever further aero into their designs. Ferrari obviously thought, way back, that this is best done in house. Given the significant extra aero, I feel the 812 looks stunning, and beautiful in the flesh. They have a done a good job of retaining a beautiful design, while increasing the number of aero elements.
     
  15. simsko

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    Gorgeous
     
  16. Red Sled

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    Makes sense.

    Could someone with technical expertise comment on just how big an impact these aerodynamic features have? I have heard some views that the absolute benefits are quite small and these are pseudo-fashion/marketing exercises.
     
  17. ml321

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    That is something I would also be curious about - not that it matters much, but I would be interested in e.g. a comparison of lift/downforce figures for say a F12tdf, 812 (or std F12) and a GT3RS or similar at different speeds.
     
  18. Milanno

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    Story behind aero tweaks is much deeper than simple fashion/marketing stuff.

    Luca di Montezemolo was strong believer that any kind of spoiler is unacceptable for road-legal Ferrari. Spoiler is crucial in order to keep car stable during high speed. If you want stable car at high speed without spoiler, be prepared for hours and hours of wind tunnel testing in order to achieve that.

    There are no real "aero" benefits when you are cruising around, but when you push your Ferrari to the limits in tight corners or on unrestricted Autobahn, be sure that those aero tweaks work for you very hard :)
     
  19. of2worlds

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    Few companies worship the past like Ferrari does. It is somewhat ironic that Manzoni has stated that he is no fan of 'retro' designs. It was LdM who pushed for more 'out there' Ferrari designs. He and Manzoni certainly agreed about the new design direction he wanted for future Ferrari models.
    Yes a typo repeating 'are' on the Manzoni name. Thank you.
     
  20. patekswiss

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    To me, you can't analyze the aesthetics of carbon fibre in a vacuum, but relative to what else is going on in the cabin and what the alternative finishes are. Sometimes the alternatives don't look better.

    In any event, I mainly spec carbon fibre as a way of staying in my dealer's good graces. :)
     
  21. MalibuGuy

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    The style of this one off reminds me of a Ferrari featured in an old 1960's movie (Italian) about an actor who demands the car as part of his payment for his performance.

    In one of the last scenes, he actor gets the Ferrari and drive off speeding like a madman.

    Anyone remember this film and the Ferrari in it?
     
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    "Tre passi nel delirio" direct by Fellini

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  23. MDEL

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    I'm working on one about all the production Ferraris GT/2seaters/ front engine V12 from the starting of the company. Once I finish this one, can't advance a date because it's made on free time, I'll be please to do one for V8 mid engines .
     
  24. of2worlds

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    #575 of2worlds, Feb 25, 2017
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    This was what inspired the Superfast> A Carrozzeria Fantuzzi&#8211;designed car featured in the Fellini-directed Toby Dammit portion of 1968&#8217;s Histoires Extraordinaires, which is based on three Edgar Allan Poe short stories. The owner decided he has to have one like it.
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