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A note to my Australian Friends

Discussion in 'Australia' started by dm_n_stuff, Feb 1, 2017.

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  1. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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  2. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    is that the noise their planes make when they crash??
     
  3. Ferraridoc

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  4. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    No, it's the noise they make when they touch down if Steve355shields is driving the bus :p
     
  5. Steve355F1

    Steve355F1 F1 World Champ
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    Pah!

    Airliners are strictly for people who can't fly for ****.

    Real men (and women) fly aircraft that only require one Captain.
     
  6. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You're assuming I was a male to start with
     
  7. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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    You have an F1 shift; I'm not even assuming you have two legs.
     
  8. simon klein

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    Boeing's don't crash though...shirley.
     
  9. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Not to nit pick. Congress is made of the Senate and House of Representatives, it is not its own body within our legislative branch. (I get that it's confusing, I'd be equally perplexed by your governmental details.)

    And, at this point, just because Trump and the Republicans have a majority, it's no easy assumption that he'll be able to push through his bizarre agenda. Plenty of Republicans, including some in his own Cabinet, that are already seeing that he's frickin' poisonous for the country, and for their careers.

    We live in interesting times.

    And, I'm really sorry I ever started this thread. :D

    D
     
  10. IanB

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    The US health system, like every major country, has complex and multi-layered problems, but it is far from "disastrous". That is left/ABC/Fairfax propaganda.

    I have lived in the US and employed people there for about 15 years, I deal with the medical insurance system regularly. Remove our medicare concealment and it is cheaper to visit a doctor and have tests/scans in New York than Sydney (I've done it). The US system functions well for 90% of the population. Problems arise when you can't afford, or are too high risk for insurance. Obamacare was an attempt to address only those aspects, by compelling insurance companies into non-commercial behaviour.

    One of the underlying drivers of the very high treatment costs in the US is the legal system, which enables very high compensation payments to litigants and is comprehensively gamed by lawyers. This results in very expensive indemnity insurance for medical practitioners, which of course flows on to insurance premiums for everyone involved.

    Like many things in life, sending 50% of the world's lawyers to Mars would be a very good start to making everything work better. (it's OK Roman, I'd tell them to keep you :D)
     
  11. Horse

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    FFS, only 50%???
     
  12. FazzerPorscheman

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    The other 50% could be sent to Uranus. ;)
     
  13. Horse

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    I hear they are using them instead of lab rats in the stats now.
     
  14. PSk

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    Can't disagree with this comment :)

    What do you guys think of the CNN, etc. news media ban by Trump?. I can't believe it myself ...
    Pete
     
  15. DMWC

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    Fake news no doubt

    Not banned just not allowed in


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  16. moretti

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    ***Flash***

    JFK not dead, just holding his breath for a long time :p
     
  17. 88Testarossa

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    I'll bet you're not complaining about our stock market these days and your portfolio gains. [emoji3]


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  18. PSk

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    Same thing. Heck freedom of the press is damn important in the so called free world. Who the heck does Trump think he is?, Saddam Hussein ... that is the sort of thing he used to do.

    BTW the only person fooled by fake news is Trump himself, cause he reacts before thinking ... and constantly bringing it up just makes him look even more silly.
    Pete
     
  19. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    oops! Good nitpick!
     
  20. Ferraridoc

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    BS
     
  21. IanB

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    Not BS at all. Have you been to a GP in New York?

    I have, and I've had similar tests with my GP in Sydney, so it was an apples to apples comparison. NYC was cheaper.
     
  22. IanB

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    you forgot to mention Hitler in your well reasoned and well informed argument.
     
  23. au-yt

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    I think Kim Jong-un fits the bill as well
     
  24. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    How did you pay - cash, travel insurance or US health insurance? Just curious as the experience of my US friends is far different in circumstances such as stroke, where the costs of caring for a lady at home (since the hospital coverage ended after 100 days) nearly bankrupted a wealthy couple.
     
  25. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    I paid with a credit card, what difference does that make? *shakes head*

    You confuse the question of insurance for long term care with the cost of a GP visit. Yes, US health insurance is a "get what you pay for" system, the lower the premium, the lower the maximum payment and term limits, after which the bills go to the patient.

    When your insurance runs out, they have Medicaid, which is a means tested safety net, so the family assets have to be drawn down before the taxpayer picks up the bill. And like any govt system, the standard of care is bare minimum. e.g. in the Australian public system, 90% of people wait 260 days for elective surgery.

    What's broken with the US system is the cost base, specialists fees are too high, indemnity insurance is inflated by the risk of compensation payouts, etc, etc. You won't fix any of that with nationalised medicine. Like many things (e.g. youth unemployment in France, secular violence in the Middle East) it is beyond fixing and the lesson we learn over and over is that more government spending only makes matters worse.
     

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