Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

It was leaked. Sure, they never announced it officially but heh, the time seems reasonable, so I believe it. Could it be 5s faster than a Performante whilst on Corsas? Sure it could. 12s faster than an SV, again very possible.

 

I don't care if it's the same or not because it has nothing to do with what I said. Literally nothing at all.

Ignorance really is bliss I guess. Bye bye lieven, it's been......something.

 

Except they won't, because there's two people here with more track experience than you'll ever have have saying that Trofeos are only marginally stickier for a very short period.

McLaren P1 vs Porsche 918 Spyder (both on Trofeo R tyres) - Page 2 - McLaren Life
McLaren P1 vs Porsche 918 Spyder (both on Trofeo R tyres) - Page 2 - McLaren Life

JFC, Chris Harris should be shot for doing that Pirelli sponsored test. Ran the laps on different days, and as if that wasn't already enough to void the test, ran the Cup 2 laps on shagged tyres after power-sliding for several minutes and ran the Trofeo R laps on pristine Trofeo Rs prepped by Pirelli and inflated to exactly the right pressure the following morning. A scientific test that isn't.

 

Err yes it does. You accused me of having double standards by equating two things that were completely different. £350k supercar vs £50k coupe and £830k car vs £1m car vs £650k car.

If you can't see the difference then you have problems.

 

so where is the 675LT or P1 nürburgringlap?

except i have ACTUAL data points on the nürburgring, the 4 second difference in the supertest falls within what akira iida said. allow me to break it down:

according to akira iida the standard LFA was 7 seconds slower than the NE(X), that puts it at 7:21(X2). before you start crying that it's slower than the ZR1 you have to remember that this was on S001 tyres(Y), which the ferrari 458 switched to MPSC(Y2) mid-production(timeline) as its standard tyre. the S001s(Y) have a threadwear rating of 280, the RE070s(Y3) have a treadwear rating of 140 and the MPSC(Y2) have a rating of 80 (only found rating for the ACR tyres). judging by this data we can see that the standard LFA would break the 7:20(X2)-barrier on nürburgring.

the laptime of sauma in the supertest 7:38 (Z) and the 7:34 (Z2) for the NE falls within the tolrances of lap X and X2, the switch that the 458 did to tyre Y2 during TIMELINE proves that it didn't use the stickiest of tyres and could go faster if switched

"Trofeos are maybe slightly faster"

yeah, that's not the case

 

how is mycroft on mclarenlife when you debunk his statements there and does the forum side with you or mycroft?

 

just wondering, have you mentioned the behind the scenes stuff on mclife (the stuff about the two others being faster) and how did they respond?

 

Have taken a few out from there in my cars on track. They know what I can do and what the car can do. No need for debate as they already know.

 

No it very much does not, not in any way whatsoever. Mostly because I wasn't equating anything.... the fact that you say that is very good proof of that you can't understand words. I simply pointed out the irony of you accusing someone of having double standards. The details of what you're having double standards about are so irrelevant to all this that it must be some kind of record.

I'm sorry but you're simply too delusional to have a conversation with, even when you get things explained to you over and over again you're still not anywhere close to grasping even the general meaning of it.

Have a good one, I'm out.

 

He never really has anyone siding with him there except his side kick, but ever since I posted the expose, his side kick is no where to be found.

They too realized what Mycroft is, so they are just basically stay off the thread, just wait for my next reveal and then his desperate attempt to either divert the topic, deny, or talk about something completely irrelevant, just like he do it here.

Who cares if he uses 1 million different handles on the internet, by the 2nd post everyone will know the posting style and can see it's the same person.

 

Actually, while Mycroft/Lieven/LMFAO was busying trying to convince everyone that his alternative facts are in fact true, I am busy doing this:
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Meanwhile I found a video of F50 eith tubi exhaust racing an Enzo at okayama,it is interesting to note that they are pretty close yet a LA Ferrari beats them with significant margin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ9x7mwnZy4
Also found F40s video at same track.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yUDjFuL93_0

 

That makes the LFA even more impressive during its time.

Nice troll.

 

NIO electric car 2:11 @ COTA
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/electric-nio-ep9-supercar-sets-driverless-lap-record-at-circuit-of-the-americas-115744.html

 

there, now i put him on ignore

 

The solution to this problem is to tick the "remember me" box when logging in and it it will automatically login in under your user name and presto! No more Lieven.

 

Me too! Finally.

 

Looks like Salmon was able to secure a Merc Hypercar.
https://youtu.be/1OJygZrnzZY?t=40m25s

Anyone on here besides Woppum got one?

 

Um, speaking of the P1, here is a link to how the suspension works. Much more lay man friendly than other explanations I have heard. Very interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AVBddY8ClM


I would like to know how this unique system compares in the real world with more conventional set up, perhaps Exoticcardreamer can advise. Is this system going to become more widespread, or will it stay a niche product, like the Wankel engine?

 

Now your concerned about scientific analysis and standardized testing. Why let any data get in the way of your conclusions or at least what you want them to be.

 

I have a confirmed expression in, but not decided yet 100%.

 

Sorry, that's rubbish. I was making the case that someone was defending a car that was performing well below its market, whilst at the same time criticising a car that was competing well at its market value and using excuses that applied equally to both cars. I was not doing that, therefore your statement is BS as no double standards were being applied be me, therefore no irony.

You should look up the meaning of words you don't understand before using them.

 

Where is the 997 GT2 RS or LFA lap?

Let me break it down for you, the 675LT is 1.5-2s faster than the SV on 1-1:30 minute laps and the SV managed 6:59 on the 'ring.

Right so 12C 7:28, apply the same correction of 17s (7:38 - 17s = 7:21) for a factory lap with significant effort, that gives 7:11 on Corsas and the LT is 4.7s faster on Vairano and 3s faster on TG track. Multiply that by 6-7 and you have a lap that is literally miles under 7:00.
McLaren MP4-12C vs McLaren 675LT - FastestLaps.com

But you find this unacceptable because you have a vendetta against McLarens.

According to people with significant track and race experience it is the case and I'll listen to them long before I listen to gibberish from a nobody on the net.

 

This is really simple. The ACR's lap time on Laguna varied by 3s on different days on a 90s track with the same driver and tyres (3 times 1:29.6, 1:31.6 and 1:30.6, so a 2s difference on different days on a 120s track could easily be down to the conditions.

Then you have the fact that the Cup 2 time is unusually slow relative to a 458S for a GT3, 4s slower and the fact the level of preparation was different.

So yeah sorry, but that voids the test.

 

I don't think the P1 has come even close to match the F1's reputation and hystorical value but does anyone believe the LaF and 918 will not stand the test of time and be less collectable than their Enzo and GT predecessors years to come?