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How many 458 Italias with original ecu and exhaust crackles?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by 458trofeo, Feb 2, 2017.

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  1. Doug_S

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    #351 Doug_S, Mar 5, 2017
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  2. 458trofeo

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    Nice!!! :)

    Notice the clarity and definition of original ecu overrun, very 'crackely'.

    Doug I am assuming she had stock cats at the time of the recording?

    Very best
     
  3. OpenFlash Performance

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    That sounds is spot on to what I've experienced with cars running the original ECU calibration.
     
  4. Doug_S

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    edited post to add a link to a longer video. don't ask where that road is - my secret. Everything is stock on the car as far as I know.
     
  5. OpenFlash Performance

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    In the second video, my car has headers and cat-deletes installed. Removing the cats just made everything louder with flames between shifts and during over-run. The crackles/burbles are still there, just louder. The exhaust note is also louder in every way. So loud that I don't even feel comfortable doing recordings in my neighborhood. I gave Mike a short ride in my car and I'm sure he can say a thing or two about it :)

    Needless to say, the day after I installed the cat deletes I ordered a set of high flow cat pipes which will be installed this week. That should quiet things down a bit to the point where I can actually start driving my car again. For personal reasons, I do want to start playing around with exhaust mods since I'm not terribly fond of how the stock mufflers dampen much of high frequency noise. I recently heard a 458 with a full IPE exhaust and it sounds pretty amazing. Even without burbles.

    I took my car out late last night (in the rain) and this morning. Made a little video:

    https://youtu.be/vd4wxLLBbJE
     
  6. 458trofeo

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    Perfect!! :)
     
  7. 458trofeo

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    Understood; sounds great Shiv, nice overrun and loooove the flames.
    I also like the pops upon gear shifts :D Bravissimo!!

    PS Any vids of Mike's Spider yet?

    Very best xoxoxo
     
  8. OpenFlash Performance

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    #358 OpenFlash Performance, Mar 5, 2017
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    Thanks! Here is an early draft of Mike's car (comparing Stock ECU tune to our ECU tune):

    https://youtu.be/I319JD79xZE
     
  9. 458trofeo

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    Sounds awesome!!!! Congrats!!! :) :)

    Very best
     
  10. dustman

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    Well, you did it! Damn!
    This my friends is awesome news.
    I don't like a spider with pops and the aggressive shift sw from a 13+ coupe.

    And carlos exhaust setup. Done and done.
     
  11. OpenFlash Performance

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    I'm glad you guys like it :) This is only the tip of the iceberg. Everyday we are learning more about the engine control system. Did some throttle mapping testing on my car yesterday (in Mexico of course). Even with traction control off, on wet/muddy roads, the new throttle maps made the car very easy to control: I recommend watching from beginning to end, in full screen mode, with volume on high:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvZA8JOmIKU&sns=em
     
  12. Sam draik

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    Awesome sound and great driving wow !! Nice job
     
  13. OpenFlash Performance

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    Lol thanks. I was actually trying to be clean and tidy but this car just begs you to thrash it. The sound, the power, the feels, etc. I really didn't think I was driving that hard in parts of the drive until I went back and looked at the video. It really is a very special car.
     
  14. Eilig

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    That was fun! :)

    Remind us please: What is the setup of the car as-filmed"

    (i.e. which tune, headers, cats, straight pipes, mufflers, etc)

    Thanks!! :)
     
  15. OpenFlash Performance

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    That was my personal car fitted with the latest version of our Openflash Stage 2 ECU tune, Agency Power headers and Agency power cat deletes. Stock mufflers. 91 octane.
     
  16. 458trofeo

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    #366 458trofeo, Mar 6, 2017
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    Arghhh you guys are making me miss my car!!
    Currently 10K miles away from her - but not for much longer :D

    Shiv, it would be interesting to hear your car on a full tank of
    100 Aki octane!! ;)

    Is there any available at the pump in your area?

    Very best
     
  17. AlfistaPortoghese

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    Shiv, no question you pulled it off. Hats off, sir.

    Perfect sound and most of all (and even tougher to achieve), the perfect sound balance between too soft (silence imposed by Ferrari's update) and too loud (everything free flowing). Perfect timing and perfect burbles.

    This should be thread of the year!

    Kind regards,

    Nuno.
     
  18. AlfistaPortoghese

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    I second that.

    Is there a big difference, Carlo?

    The most we have here in Portugal is 98 RON.

    Kind regards,

    Nuno.
     
  19. OpenFlash Performance

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    There is 100oct available at the pump 25 miles away. I'm more interested in developing an E85 tune for 458 since that fuel is becoming readily accessible in most US states. And you can usually make more power with it than with high octane gasoline.
     
  20. OpenFlash Performance

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    Your 98RON is similar to the 93oct (RON+MON/2) we get here in North America.
     
  21. OpenFlash Performance

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    Thanks if I had known this was something that people wanted, I would have don't it last year when I got my car! If I had not seen this thread I wouldn't have even known that my car, as delivered, was missing burbles. So thumbs up to 458trofeo for starting this thread!
     
  22. MikeA

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    I'm the owner of the the 2013 458 Spider that Shiv has been using to objectively demonstrate the results of his tune.
    I am more than pleased with how it turned out. For full disclosure, my cost was less than 'retail', coming in around $400-500 including covering the cost of the tablet hardware and renting a car for several days.
    Most obvious to me are the introduction of the burbles. I've never heard a stock 2010-11 car for comparison, but i know I like what he has accomplished.
    I also really like the fact that I could disconnect my Capristo valve controller, and utilize instead the programming of the valves that is done automatically by the tuned ECU's. Race and above are 100% all the time, and if you want a quieter ride, turn the Manettino down to Sport or Wet, where the exhaust valves are closed most of the time. I drive in Race with rare exceptions (Sport if I need to be quiet, Wet if it is raining hard). I also drive my car a lot, with just over 30k miles with my 4th year of ownership milestone coming at the end of this month.
    A few other tweaks were done to my car which I haven't checked out yet. Smoother accelerator response in Race, richer mixture at the high end, as well as a few more HP. I didn't have him raise the redline to 9300.
    Shiv's commitment to hands on customer service is also great. I think we can expect more tweaks from him as he plays with the OpenFlash 458.
    Bottomline, nothing but compliments.
    Mike
     
  23. Eilig

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    YES!!!! Bravo 458Trofeo!! Bravo!!! :)
     
  24. Eilig

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    Thanks so much, Mike. Your feedback is meaningful, and much appreciated.

    I'm so excited about this, that I based a recent purchase (last week!) of a non-burble Italia on Shiv's purported capabilities.... Your post allows me to remove the word "purported" from the previous sentence -- about which, I'm very very excited! :)

    Shiv, looking forward to working with you in the near future!
     
  25. 458trofeo

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    I think there is as higher octane fuel burns slower, hence more
    unburnt fuel is hitting the exhaust parts :D
     

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