F1 Clutch Job

Did you record the PIS reading before taking the clutch apart that a must and also it could only of been the E diffrental pressure and Switch that causing to go into N, 430 are well known for it, e diff and F1 system has to be bleed after a clutch replacment with a Scanner that's the only way , did anyone scan the 430 for codes before you replace the clutch ,

 

Hope you had the special wrench to replace the throw out bearing and attachment bolts

 

Andrie -

The tool is shown here: 95973048 360 GEAR BOX WRENCH - Ricambi America, Inc.

If you PM me, we have one in our loaner pool that I'd be happy to send out. The pins are something you probably should replace because their pretty cheap anyway: 201171 STUD FOR END OF STROKE - Ricambi America, Inc.

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Andrie-- sorry havent logged in for a while- saw your PM so will reply to update the thread

with the ricambi kit i got the clutch wear sensor-

before install i mic'd both discs as well as i could with them being attached to the PP. on race car clutches we mic for min TH (quartermaster etc) and thats how you know the life remaining- so when i saw the one that came out and the SD3 said its at 89% worn i measured it to compare to the new-

the old clutch to me visually looked very good- so most likely the SD3 was reading correct but the clutch sensor was bad- but this isnt something that can be determined until its apart-

after install with new clutch as i said prev it drove worse- it learned new clutch position with new sensor and it came in at 104% or something life left-

the issue was the shift selector potentiometer. did a complete relearn procedure and it didnt correct the problem so ordered that part in and so far it seems ok- this was all completed towards end of last year and right now we have snow on the roads so it wont likely be driven again till april--

at this time i think its fixed- will update once can be driven more-

in the end i believe the clutch sensor and not the clutch itself- was only issue-
the shift potentiomenter could have been on its way out but i was also told that the computer could possibly prevent shifts when the clutch wear sensor is getting towards 100%.. that i do not know if its true or not.. but re-re the trans likely sent a failing sensor to its demise..

 

I don,t think your Auto Enginuity can't or ajust PIS reading

 

Of course Autoenginuity can set PIS, run through the F1 self-test, bleed and do diagnostics for F1. I bought it for my techs and they have used it on several Ferraris with F1 to do just that.

You are passing bad info for no good reason.

 

For the benefit of Andrie and others, can those who purchased the a/e state where they got the best price / service from

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Dominick- Directly from the guys who built it is how I bought it. AE's Ferrari/Maserati package also includes most European, Japanese, and American cars and all future updates. $3500, you provide the laptop. My guys have used it on Porsches and their own BMW, as well.

 

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Not really, AE only limited to so much same line as the Texa does, maybe good for 360 and some older models and you really have to upgrade for about $5,500.00 for F430 and some 458 data that about as far as it goes and that won,t even give you any ECU upgrade flashing and it does half what the Leonardo can do,

 

Have you used the AE software?

John.

 

I have did a lot of requirements about AE you really have to upgrade to get what you want and it not $3,500 for the whole package there little data you get of of it compare with the Leonardo

 

I have tried them all. So far nothing compaires to the Leo. I even worked with an SD3 and the Leo was much easier to use, and to be honest much better.

 

scuderia09- As usual, you do not know what you are talking about. Stop spreading bad info.

Yes, the factory tools or Leonardo are superior, but they also cost a lot more.

 

Hey , just telling you my opinion on the software what it can or not do , but don't tell me I,am spreading bad info . For $3,500 what you expect your going to get it only a import package and don't try to say it does the same or better as factory or Leonardo system it doesn't compare , so stop spreading the bad info. how better the AE software is .

 

I agree 100% I tried them all myself also.

 

Has anyone tried this unit

Autel

I have attached coverage as well as what tech support mentioned atop of the attached document - seems like you can get your hands on this for around 2700

This is what is what tech support mentioned along with attachment for 430 Scuderia

Please let me know what you guys think after looking at these documents

I think it would suit OP for clutch job ???


Brake Bleed Rear Right
Brake Bleed Rear Left
Brake Bleed Front Left
Brake Bleed Front Right
Steering Angle Calibration
We Identifier Right-Hand
We Identifier Left-Hand
Rear We Identifier Right-Hand
Rear We Identifier Left-Hand
PIS Adaptation
Self Learning
Reset Wear Index
Actuators Calibration
Clutch Configuration
Clutch Actuator Bleed
Actuator Bleed Engagement And Selection
PIS Adaptation
Self Learning
Reset Wear Index
Clutch Configuration
Upload/Download
Km Updating
Miles Updating
Front Disc Wear Reset
Rear Disc Wear Reset
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I'm loving this thread..

I've basically traded a 348 that gets lambasted about needing an engine out every few years for cambelt/tensioners change, for a 430 that has camchains, but unlike the 348 it needs engine/gearbox separation to get to the darned clutch (something that I could do on the 348 in less than an hour!).

Oh and I need $k of elec equipment to do the job....brilliant.

Gotta love Technology progress.

 

At the risk of getting shot down, again... I am yet to find an aftermarket diagnostic that provides the functionality of the factory kit. To do the clutch job with later TCUs you really ought to be running the calibration using this cable: https://www.ricambiamerica.com/95979568-kisspoint-cable.html

It is possible to manually set the PIS but it isn't the correct way. The Leonardo I was working with didn't have this functionality so, unless it's been updated in the last couple of months, the claims that it is as good as the factory kit are simply wrong.

 

It not the right way and why would you want to set the PIS manually and i don,t think it can be done , the ajustment higher and lower is very minimal , the Leonardo using only F1 ECU computer to set PIS and clutch reading

 

scuderia09- You really should keep quiet about stuff you obviously do not understand. Of course you can set PIS manually unless you have an early 360, which only allows auto adjustment. There are dozens of threads on the subject. My 575M's PIS was set manually using Voicey's recommendations and AE software. 7.7 mm to be exact, quite a bit higher than the 360 PIS settings you normally see.

 

Adjustment higher and lower is not minimal at all. Manual PIS adjustment is a very valuable tool and if you had more than a small modicum of experience I would not be explaining that to you.