I don't understand the new color's name yet. Galliera called Rosso Settantanni. Mr. Massini and some papers called Rosso dei rossi. Although there is this a little problem with the name, I noticed that under the light this color is extremely and incredibly glossy. What a shine! Stunning car About the design, I think 812 Superfast is probably a little bit more aggressive and less elegant than F12berlinetta. You can see a sort of trip, a true evolution, the same evolution from 458 to 488, although this is inexact because F12 and 812 came from Centro Stile (Manzoni) while 458 was by pininfarina and F12 was in house. In my opinion in F12 there is a little part of Pininfarina collaboration, this because if you look at development sketches, Pininfarina proposal are much different from actual F12 lines. Anyway I like very much the car. Beautiful front, stunning area under side mirror, good tail. I'm waiting to see in the flesh, unfortunately I can't go to geneva. I'll wait. This is my favorite view of the car: https://ag-log.o.auroraobjects.eu/03-2017/geneve_812_superfast/3.jpg At last, I would to say I'm in love with F12 T theme tail. It was extremely innovative, stylish and beautiful interpretation of an idea.
Thanks to that clip tt started to grow on me!!! I dont know, probably in person its gonna look astonishing!
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Ferrari are headed in the right direction, the only difference is that this is a completely new direction and Ferrari will have to stay the course to remain relevant but at the same time distinctly 'Ferrari' in the now growing and extremely competitive supercar market. Give it time, it's a revolutionary design (for Ferrari at least) and will look beautiful in person in the right shade. I do agree that the matte gray car doesn't help but I have no doubt it'll look stunning in the right shade, I loved the rear from day 1 but that's just me...
I must agree that view is nice/not as ugly. Calling all Geneva visitors: can we please get a shot side-by-side of "Rosso dei rossi" vs "Rosso corsa"? I really need to understand the differences. Image Unavailable, Please Login
At my eyes Rosso Corsa is much pastel and orange. Rosso dei Rossi is deep and glossy like nail varnish
The front of the 720s looks like the marvel character Deadpool. Nonetheless I prefer the cohesive design that highlights airflow around the vehicle McLaren did with the 720s. With the 812 the rear appears overdone with too many lines and sharp edges compared to the f12b elegance and the front end channels dodge viper design elements. Nonetheless its still an aggressive looking GT.
I love Ferrari...I love my F12, Speciale, and 16M. I wanted to love the 812 too...waited excitedly for the release. The 812, at least in pictures, is a hot mess to me. The rear is awful.
Speaking of the seats. Those new ones (from silver car) seem to be super comfortable. Any thoughts from the people being in Geneva? I have always been a fan of Racing Seats (L size) but maybe there is something better now.
To my eyes this is a good photo but maybe it's because you cant see the slash/vent over the rear arch? Link to a larger version: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6VIKtNWYAA58-s.jpg Image Unavailable, Please Login
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http://immagini.alvolante.it/sites/default/files/styles/image_gallery_big/public/news_galleria/ferrari-812-superfast-10.jpg?itok=0MoF7RhQ and Foto - Ferrari 812 Superfast: nome vintage, tecnologie moderne
σας ευχαριστώ Ferrari didn't change the basic design of those sport seats since almost 10 years, with the Scuderia (Hence the name "Scud seats" ), I can understand since this is probably the most perfect design in automotive seats.
After looking at some HD pictures from the show, I'm afraid the special red "Rosso dei rossi" is just an off-Rosso Corsa. Same depth, glow, shine as any other pastel, solid colour. Just a tad darker, isn't it? You can wax it to death and obtain wonderful shine... just as Rosso Corsa, but I guess you can't really pull much more off a solid colour.
The 812 with its highly controversial design elements and rear section appears to indicate that future Ferraris aesthetics wont be anymore the way many of us would like. I tryed to find out an explanation why some of those design changes are occurring and after searching a little about the personality and design interests of Mr. Flavio Manzoni Ferraris design director, discovered that he has since he was a kid a kind of obsession for science-fiction matters. In an article published on Formtrends and titled FERRARI DESIGN DIRECTOR CREATES LAFERRARI SPACECRAFT Manzoni says his infatuation for spacecraft began when he was just a child in his native Sardinia I lived in a six story building, with a large terrace at the top. I thought that one day a UFO would land there. It disturbed me a little but I was curious The UFO instead landed in Maranello, in a kind of area 51 where designers dont shape the present cars but the future Ferraris of the space age. It all started as a bit of fun says Flavio Manzoni who decided to parlay his passion for science fiction into a vision for an altogether different mode of transport than the one he typically oversees in his role as Ferrari design director. At first it was a sketch, or rather, a series of sketches, then it developed into a rendering which gave form into a Ferrari space ship. I tried to imagine something that can fly in the future, since there will be less an less space available in the ground says Manzoni And I focused on creating a little craft thats different than my childhood dream when I thought that car of the future would slip on a cushion I think it is possible that there are other beings in the universe more or less evolved says the designer. but I also think its really difficult to intercept. What if they were living with us already? Perhaps our brothers of the cosmos have done as the first Europeans who conquered the Americas: when the mission ended they returned home Image Unavailable, Please Login
This video should appeal to you then with some carbon close ups. I didn't notice the carbon strip on the rear hatch until now, looks cool. I assume its painted as standard? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-dqjUC8E0
IMO Ferrari cars should be artistic mix of glorious past and current high-technology from F1. There is no space for silly sci-fi generic ships as inspiration. Leave that to Japanese designers...
There is a much stronger resemblance in this car to the 599 than the F12. The big swooping bonnet (a lot like the GTO) and the pseudo flying buttresses.
Couldn't agree more. From the front and sides it's a very attractive car, but the rear end is so ugly it just completely kills the whole car for me. it really looks like they took the ugliest possible part of a Corvette (the rear) and welded it onto the car. Major design fail. If the rear end looked more like the 599 they'd have a winner.
Respectfully disagree. No Ferrari I can think of in the history of the company has a rear end that looks worse than the 812. As for being "ahead of the pack" design wise as some have suggested...how so? This is just a Corvette rear end repurposed as a Ferrari. If they'd wanted to be avant garde or to break with the single light configuration of recent years they could have tried bringing back the triple light configuration of the 365 cars, which would have been distinctive and probably looked way cooler than this. But the big problem is that they've slopped the back of the car up with all sorts of metal folding over other metal. Everything is layered, nothing is clean. And those pseudo blacked out lights? Ugly. It's as though they designed this beautiful car 85% of the way, got to the back, and said, "Wait! Let's appeal here to trashy people with money". Bleh.
That is the best angle on this car I've seen so far. The F12b still beats it in looks by a mile, but I guess there's more to life than looks, even for a Ferrari.