The Official Ferrari 812 SUPERFAST pictures thread

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Nice efforts by ferrari centro stilo on the v8, v13 models but can we bring back the less aggressive more elegant designs imo of pininfarina already

 

The rear is complete ****e
Wtf is the lip BELOW the bottom edge of the rear windscreen....no further comments.....I've bought one.......

 

Respectfully disagree with your disagreement .....! The rear imho really works esp when seen in the flesh ....

 

Man, that's a bold statement.

The F12 rear-end thong was pretty damned bad. Obviously Ferrari Design agreed or they would have carried it forward. I don't think we'll ever see that again.

How about the 1st gen California? That had a rather big looking butt. Worse looking than just about anything with a Ferrari badge.

This one? It's only fault are the four taillights, two would have been better. But that will age fine. Oh and that it's busy looking. Yes, Ferrari's are often "busy".

This car looks right because it looks aggressive. Aggressive is where Ferrari design needs to be.

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Based on this video, the 812 SF has a more sculpted, detailed design compared to the F12. Way more sculpted than the 599 or 550.

The modern surface treatment and aero details makes the previous generation cars look slab sided by comparison.

-F

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damn...sweet combo...Three Musketeers !

 

The design will age fine. Some of the details are off, should have had two tail lights, Ferrari script on the glass is kind of weird, front grill mesh shouldn't be a hexagon, things like that.

But the trajectory of Ferrari design for the front engine V12's is in the right direction, that is, towards a more aggressive aesthetic with each generation.

Aggressive is where the front engine model needs to be. (All the while the V8 models get more simple and pure design wise.)

-F

 

One man's "sculpted" is another man's "busy". I don't think you can win over folks to your opinion by basically talking down the three most beautiful recent mid-front PF Ferraris.

 

Most people outside this forum love the new car
There is a lot romanticism here.

 

Very nice - posting your pix here to save a click. I was about to do the same thing as I realize that the upper level (or 2nd tier) of rear fender is just overkill.

The whole thing reminds me of the Sydney Opera House!

When I was doing my sketches prior to the release of 812, I thought of this design and actually sketched it based on comments from observers. But after drawing it, I thought "no way they would put a step in the rear fender..." Well they did!

Bottom pic looks a lot like what I had sketched.
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If you think about it the F12 and 812 have no lines in common. If you overlay cars will not find anything that matches. How to contradict the one who designed the car?! One particularity misleading and contradictory is that under the dress is exactly the same chassis of the F12. Conceptually in terms of design 812 is a completely new car. In an overall view, chassis plus bodywork, this is an inevitable evolution. For example look at how much difference there is between a 550, 599 and F12: those have all three different chassis.

 

Clearly they wanted a much bigger differentiation for Lusso/812 than between FF/F12. Just a shame we couldn't have a little more of the 'elegance'.

 

Thank you very much.What are the reactions in Italy about 812?

 

Guys, Is this the Bi-Xenon or Led headlamp? It's hard to tell
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I love 812 Superfast

From QUATTRORUOTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es0B5KUvjs0
Flavio Manzoni: There would be many things to say but I try to synthesize them. We are faced with an exceptional Ferrari, the most powerful and fastest of history between those produced in series. We are talking about a car that sets new standards in terms of speed and acceleration both longitudinal and lateral. The form that we see is a result of these objectives. We worked hard with our colleagues from the technical direction for the series of technical aerodimaiche solutions which would allow the achievement of these objectives. It is an integrated project in the sense that I and all employees of the Ferrari Style Centre have been working on understanding of these solutions to create a little 'a synthesis, a form that worked chisel could be not only super efficient but also very original, very personal speech from the point of view. The line is a fastback line. We had a little 'to mind the line of Daytona, not because of the language, and for this very pure line that has allowed us to integrate the big rear spoiler naturally. Then the shape is a succession of full and empty spaces necessary to channel the volume in all its parts, which has also become an opportunity of style. For example, the characteristic of the two front and rear fenders is precisely to be traversed from the air: a kind of by-pass aerodynamic that creates very special situations - behind in the vicinity of the side windows and the front where there is this enveloping effect the wheel arches, very nice especially at the front where these vents join the headlights - so there is a nice combination between lighting and aerodynamics. This version in gray puts further highlight the sculptural effect of the surfaces, especially the enveloping effect of the wings. You notice how aerodynamics affect on the various solutions: this step between the rear window and spoiler is essential for aerodynamics. So even cutting back that has the philosophy to truncated tail is designed to achieve the best aerodynamic targets.

 

Having seen every photo of the car but not the car in the metal I am now 100% on board with the front end and the sides of the car, like most people on here. I don't love the rear yet but it's a big design change and I'm easing into it and will wait until it becomes more familiar and iv seen in it person. There are a lot of cars I didn't like at launch That over the following year or so I really grew to love, the LaF is one of them. For me the F12 is one of the prettiest cars you can buy and it really took owning one and seeing it in the metal regularly to fall deeply in love with it curves, elegance and proportions, I can happily just sit and stare at the thing (Grigio Silverstone) and out and about when it's dirty it's even better, say in the morning with road dirt and dew covering it. The 812 rear is definitely different but give it time and familiarity and it will start to make sense, I didn't even like the TDF that much until I saw them out and about and got used to the extra styling and design over the F12.

I can't wait to see an 812 on different wheels (not that horrible yellow one at the factory)

 

Thank you for the translation.

Flavio Manzoni says the 812 is a new car and not an evolution but personally I'm not convinced about that. However what I'm very convinced about, is that Mr. Manzoni's ego wants to wipe from the earth's surface anything that might associate is center new creations to PininFarina. He talks about the 812 aerodynamics like if they were the most important thing about this car and it becomes evident that this model was designed mainly with that objective in mind.

To end he states that the code of the 812 isn't elegance and care for proportions but "Very extreme Ferrari". Some like this approach but others we don't.

 

They love the trendy nature of the design, as would be expected from styling in line with the trends du jour. There is a lot of timeless taste and understanding of/respect for essential Ferrari DNA here.

 

I think that nowadays aerodynamic is a very serious factor in the whole process of designing a new car. Take a look at Mclaren's new 720. It's in someways ugly but the purpose behind every panel is giving an advanced and innovative result.I don't say that a ferrari don't have to be elegant and stylish.But for many of us what lies underneath is that matters.

 

Manzoni can say its a new car but at the end of the day it's a restyled F12, not a clean sheet design which i'm sure would have been more fluid. I also don't like the 'Extreme' comment. It didn't need to be extreme. It could have been a very purposeful looking aggressive restyle but at the same time very elegant. Oh, but we have that already, the F12 tdf!

 

The truth is that most people won't use 80% of the power or aero ... ever. Styling is more important than ever with all the super and hyper cars on the market. Design DNA is more important than ever. Ferrari has 70 years of momentum to ride, and they are. In some ways they can do no wrong. People with new money want the cars even if the regulars are less inclined.

 

I agree, and i believe that under Di Montezemolo this car would never be allowed...to my eye, it's vulgar and lacks everything a Ferrari stands for from a design point of view.
The f12 was a true masterpice and the comparaison between both cars makes it even harder to accept the 812. This is probably Ferrari's biggest flop since the mondial, design wise. Unless they are turning towards rapers and footbal players this is clearly the wrong diretion, that's always been Lamborghini territory, and qyuite frankly, Ferrari doesn't need it.