The Official Ferrari 812 SUPERFAST pictures thread

If you can ignore all the nonsense in the background I think the car looks great from all angles in the official launch video.
I am going with tdf blue which I think will work well with the design.
I am struggling with how to spec interior though.
Originally wanted to do something classic for a GT like crema or sabbia mainly leather but am now veering towards charcoal mainly Alcantara.

 

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In the second, third and fourth picture we can see the LED line in the edge of the headlights.

 

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I don't think this has been posted, but the most complementary angle of that fat arse I can find.
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Sir, I think you ought to consider posting more often! You have very elegantly and articulately expressed my exact thoughts. I couldn't have said it better! Thank you sir!

 

Long time lurker here;

I hated the design. I hated the whole car. I was angry about it for several days (yes I am childish, and no one can stop me). Thought it looked like a flamboyant Hotwheels toy car. Or even worse - I thought it looked like Spider Man. "How could Ferrari do something like this?" I repeated this inside my head. Day and night. I could not sleep. It made me so upset that my girlfriend told me to go see a doctor. But what I did was simply telling my self "Relax dude. Relax."

I slept for a few days, woke up and looked at it again. "Hmm. The car looks better I guess". A smile appeared on my face, my blood pressure went down and I grabbed my morning tea. "Hell yeah this is good! This is really really good." Nope, not talking about my tea, believe it or not. I'm talking about the car!

After all the photos I've seen of the 812 in its flesh (or metal if you will), my heart is starting to beat fast for this beauty. My God I love it. It has a few design elements from the holy Daytona, and you guys with a trained eye understand what I mean. There is something elegant and beautiful about this car. It looks well proportioned, the hood looks longer and the tail shorter. Just like the good old days.


This is just my personal opinion. I think it's sad that Pininfarina is gone.The PF badge adds a historical value to an F-car imo. But I'll give Ferrari Design a chance. So far, they have dissapointed me with the 488, Cali T and the Lusso.
But the 812 looks promising, and hey! Remember; the real test for Flavio and his team comes when they reveal a completely new design language on a new platform untouched by Pininfarina.

I think we all should relax, breathe for a moment and get some sleep. I respect you guys who find this car awfull. We all have different taste, but I'm confident enough to say that one day, you'll adore this car as much as I do.

And to all of you who's got one on order - congrats! I'm in love too, and I'll be checking it out for the first time next week.

Cheers

 

Thanks for the correction on "rappers"....and i agree with you, the mondial rear is much better...and of course, all is relative, i would love to own a mondial

 

Well put! I love it too. Still totally confused and undecided on how i'm going to spec mine though. What days are you at Geneva?

 

Go for something classy that compliments the car. It can never go wrong! Follow your heart. I would love to spec mine (if I'm getting one) in Azzuro California with beige leather and alcantara. The carbon seats is a must too. I'm a small man, so short that I need the carbon seats to compensate for my height. And I find them more comfy than the others.

Silver calipers, silver wheels. Loads of cf. Scuderia shields.

 

Oh and I forgot your question. I'll be there on monday or tuesday.

 

Brilliant, thanks for the spec ideas. Same, I'll be there Monday & Tuesday. Tuesday on the stand! Can't wait to see her in the flesh.

 

I'm sure she is a stunner. A worthy F-car imo, and she wears a beautiful dress for her rare NA V12 and amazing tech. So happy for you. Congrats!

 

Loads of cf.

I think CF for exhaust surrounds (see grey car) are a must but not sure about anywhere else.

 

So true - I had a good laugh


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For the great majority of car makers what defines the success or failure of a particular model is the acceptance or rejection it experiences near the potential buyers. With Ferrari cars things have never worked that way and it doesn't matter how good or bad a new car was in terms of design, features and price, it has always found buyers and sold exceptionally well. This simply tells us that a part of Ferrari clientele will buy any new car independently of what it is but as far as it shows the cavalino badge and the Ferrari lettering. That said, Mr. Flavio Manzoni can design whatever he likes, even a science fiction space ship without wheels that doesn't fly, and as far as he keeps calling it a Ferrari there won't be a shortage of customers and buyers.

The stereotyped buyers just mentioned, which are probably the large majority, and for whom a Ferrari is basically the expression of wealth and success, don't even know that FerrariChat exists and no critical opinions whatsoever, so that leaves us here with the Ferraristas for whom this brand and it's cars are something so special that has become almost a religion. That may explain partially why the criticism over a new model has always tended to soften with time but, on the other hand, not all the models can be put in the same basket because there were some whose designed was better than others. For many decades and independently of the greater success or not of a particular Ferrari model, at least we have had the assurance that the brand culture created by Enzo was translated in terms of car design by a design house always directed by men named Pinin Farina. Like it or not this design house has created the most beautiful Ferraris of all times and logically it's accumulated knowledge and school should be logically in the ADN of any new model.

Because we don't live in a perfect world Ferrari has changed to a new paradigma, new share holders, new top management, new designers, but all with a common purpose, to show to each other that they can do better than the predecessors.

 

Well I've seen the videos, read all the articles, saw and understood the simulations, and read the FChat and the general public's responses. From a body design perspective there's no getting around it (apologize in advance to those new FChat buyers):

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I think that actually makes a lot of sense. It's like comparing a new love to an old...nothing good ever comes of that. Overall, I have gone from liking to now loving the 812. Love ain't perfect but I am excited to configure it! Although my excitement is understandable as I have a regular old f12 in the garage versus your spectacular new TDF

 

I'm the other way around actually, I feel that the front engined cars should be simple and elegant, more of a gentleman's cruiser while the mid engined cars should be more aggressive and race car like. So I say leave the vents and the crazy aero for the mid engined cars and the front engined specials.

 

Yes, that is the conventional wisdom approach. But if you scratch a bit deeper, you will understand why the front engine V12's need to be more aggressive and the mid-engine V8's can pull back a bit, and the super models need to be bonkers.

Looking at the front engine V12 as an Italian version of an Aston Martin, or a MB, or a sporty Bentley, or take your pick, was how Ferrari used to see the model but thankfully Flavio Manzoni sees past that and realizes the front engine V12 model needs to sit on a different square on the chessboard than just the "gentleman cruiser" square.

The gnashing of teeth over the Ferrari flagship is a perennial occasion. Pretty much every model has gone through that.

The Daytona was too sharp and linear compared to what came before it. The testarossa too big, and what is up with the massive cheese-grater scoop? The 550 was fine, a little too boring. The 599 too big. The F12 was loved but boy did people question the lines and details. The 812 is too busy and aggressive and needs to be more elegant.

It's funny to watch people opine for the model before it as if that represents the pinnacle of Ferrari design; the very model that was slagged when it came out as too over the top or too big or too busy or whatever. Now those models represent design gold. Yes, lot's of romanticism going on here.

The bottom line? Mr. Market.

If in a few years, Ferrari dealers have to work hard to move 812's off the showroom floors like they did with California's or FF's or Alonso 599's, then let's talk. I'm predicting just the opposite. Waiting lines for as far as the eyes can see.

-F

 

Hey, every model grouping has it's design battles. Just look at the V8 lineup.

308 vs. 328, 348 vs. 355, 360 vs. F430, 458 vs. 488. Everyone has their favorite. The front engine V12 models are no different.

-F

 

Thanks ohno! Not bad, hey? Still prefer my design, ha-ha ;-)

I really didn't know he admired the Sydney Opera House - interesting factoid. It's just that the overlapping of the upper part of the rear fender "shell" just reminded me of the opera house.

 

furmano, I think you make some great points. I am in the camp of the V12 should be a little bit more of a gentleman's car. But, its clear they are thinking the gentleman's car spot is filled by the GTC4. Freeing up the 2 seater to be more aggressive. Also, one of the criticisms of the F12b is it wasn't attention getting enough against things like an Aventador. And then there is the fact that the "M" models (you could say the "facelift" if you like) are usually more aggressive looking. I think they almost have to be as its a more natural direction to take things when doing a facelift model. They well could go back to something that is a little more elegant when the 812 successor breaks cover in 5-6 years. If they made the 812 more of the same as the F12, my guess is it wouldn't sell as well, but you're right that time will tell.

I'm still struggling with the 812. It's just not working for me right now. But I hated the 458 when it came out and now I love it. I loved the F12 when it came out and now I love it. The thing I take from this is the real disaster would be if we didn't have an emotional response to the design.

 

I think this is a very interesting observation. The 360 vs. F430 is a great analogue. The 360 in my view was always such an elegant, pure design. The F430 was trying too hard, front and rear.

The F12 is just so gorgeous. I drove mine today for the first time in awhile, as the weather has just begun to clear. Such a complete success on so many levels, and so beautiful.

 

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