Ferrari 488 Compared to the McLaren 720s

I've seen the 720 and love it far more than I did from any pictures. The front headlights make sense, the air vents running from the hood through the doors are amazing. The interior of the car is a vast upgrade from the previous vehicles. Continually emphasized by the engineering folks was the incredible software advancements. Without driving it, I can only shake my head to think a car could be significantly better than the 675 was. It still won't be more light, but it is exciting to think of it being improved in some ways.

This thread I think said 488 or 720? I'm on my second 488, and like the car quite a bit. I'm also getting a launch edition 720 and a Performante. If the concept is to only get one of these cars, I suppose I'd want the newest and maybe most provocative toy. I think that would presently be the 720 as it represents a new car versus an upgrade of an existing platform: 488, 812, Aventador S, Performante.

Having said that, I don't have to get just one, and I'm getting all the above. Like the current big three supercars, each has their own style, and each is pretty darn excellent as a stand alone. Also, historic cars are often more exciting to drive such as the CS, Scud, CGT. Having the rev of the CGT still in my head from this afternoon's drive, I'd be hard pressed to definitively tell you any car is better.

 

They do. They tune every car for months trying to get "the sound". But you can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear sometimes.

If you ever listen to a 246 Dino engine, you hear "engine". There is no other engine on earth that sounds like a Dino. Sometimes, it just happens.

IMO, super car makers do this "manipulation" too much today. They sound artificial. The sound boxes and mufflers are designed BY COMPUTER to make whatever sounds they want.

Sad....

 

not so easy, you can't make turbo car which have pagani zonda sound level

 

488 sounds pretty bland for a Ferrari if you ask me, the 458 sounded so much better... wonder why Ferrari didn't focus so much on the exhaust note of the 488 because it is pretty underwhelming for such an important car in their portfolio

 

I think there are also regulations that change to make it more difficult. Some may be noise, others to do with reliability or emissions. Remember that the headers are basically tuning forks under vibration constantly. And Ferrari has had an issue with broken headers before.

I'm sure there's more than one reason why they do what they do. In the 60's they just put equal length headers out to quad pipe and you got what you got. Today it's all done by computer.

Not the same thing.

The 488 sounds good. It's just not better than the 458, partly because the turbos and partly because the rev's aren't there. A 458 at 9 grand will make your hair stand straight up.

 

I hope not only Ferrari but also other companies finally admit That modern turbo sound is ugly and they will try to do something about this
.... or maybe engineers in Ferrari already know that 488 successor will be hybrid with NA engine so they don't want waste time on upgrade 488 sound

 

It is lighter and more powerful than the 488, so it will be quicker in a straight line, as in 812 quick! Round a track it remains to be seen. I don't agree that Maccas' electronics and suspension are superior though; definetely not by that margin, if at all.

 

The Dino doesn't sound that good though; nothing compares with a N/A, high revving V12. I love the way that the new V12 Ferraris sound. Much shriekier than the slow revving old V12 from the '60s

 

Well, I cannot think of a better sounding turbo engine. You can't do much about the muffling effect of the turbochargers.

 

Yep, that is no surprise

If you can find a dealer with an allocation and build of course that is best route (w/o relationship that will be hard).

Good luck with the hunt!

 

There is a beautiful red and black that its in the classifieds....why not that one?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferraris/547211-2016-ferrari-488-gtb-corsa-red-over-nero.html#post145264539

 

Ditto.

Its been a long time since I got "bent over" to this degree with a car in such a short period of time !!

 

Depreciation and marque image aside the 675/720 are streets ahead of 488, do you guys drive these guys. Assume you all think your wives are the prettiest and kids the cleverest !

Forget 650, drive the new stuff then comment. I have a 488 super boring by comparison.

 

650 is going to tank even further. Anyone who owns one will be looking to upgrade to a 720s. They are already Mclaren fans. It will become the best bargain in the world of supercars in about 6 months. 175k - here we come!

 

Have you driven 720? No.

 

holy sweet jeeezus that is magnificent! 488 or 720 is sophies choice.

 

I agree that depreciation should not be a serious issue when selecting a car of this price. However, massive depreciation is a reflection of the issues of the car and the organization supporting the car.

That is an issue. It's not the money. Its the reason behind the money.

A lot of people dumping at the same time them makes them fall. McLaren likes to send a lot of unsold cars to America which makes dealers do big discounts for new cars, trickling down to used values even with low mileage and only one year old. Repair costs are very high and any car within a year of warranty is gotten rid of.

McLaren has this idea that they need to introduce a new car every year. So, owners trade them back in all the time resulting in more used cars on the market.

And the fact that McLaren has no US parts supply meaning that all parts have to be ordered and sent through US customs makes the cars sitting in dealer garages way too long. Do that often enough and people just say "it's not worth it". If the system is not consumer friendly, it will eventually burn out.

Lastly, McLaren has some credibility problems. When they introduced the LT, they said it was strictly limited to 500 pieces. After it was sold out, they "forgot" to mention they were making 500 LT spiders which pissed off their best customers.

There's more to buying a car than just the car. Ferrari is no angel but they can get away with more. When you are number 3 you have to try harder than number 2 before you can challenge number 1

 

Agree, I'm stuck on NA cars....CGT, 16M, LP670SV and now Performante on order. I'm really trying to like turbo and maybe Mac will win me over if not for electric feeling driving.
It really is about the driving experience....


Sent from my 16M

 

Lucky dog! Getting the 3 latest!
Totally agree with you on the CGT, epic.
Noticed you are with Thermal. I'll be at Thermal when Lambo does their Performante testing there.


Sent from my 16M

 

Yes, connected....

 

This is well said.

 

You're joking right...? The AMG GT sounds so much better as does the 675LT...

Ferrari were just lazy and didn't spend more time focusing on the sound, and I doubt anything else they make henceforth will sound as good (V12s excluded, of course...) as a 458 with the original crackles and burbles... that in my opinion, is Maranello's finest V8 supercar to date

 

Yeah--whatever. Pics or didn't happen.