Beautiful car and expertly spec'd! Sorry if I missed it but did you divulge the names of the door will signatories? Is one of them Manzoni? Also, what is the background on the paint color error - was the car actually repainted or just the samples were redone?
Seb and Kimi. Chose the colour at TM but there was no apparent name. Asked repeatedly for sample to be sent and when they were about to start production last year, and I still hadn't received the sample, I said please don't build until the colour has been approved. That finally got them to send me a sample which naturally turned out not to be the colour I had chosen. In short, they were about to build my car in the wrong colour and I would have had little option but to accept it. Finally after help from various contacts at the Factory and in the company hierarchy, despite their insisting it was the right colour and my insisting it wasn't with only my memory as reference, they finally realised they had messed up, but not before I had almost decided to change to GT triple layer in desperation. Now I do have pretty much the right colour and I am glad I made the fuss as in the light it is that perfect blue grey I was after even though it appears to defeat cameras efforts to record it correctly.
I love those details! Pecorra seems to be a really (hope this word is correct) snugly material! Can't wait to see some new pics!
That is indeed scary that they messed up and almost build the car with the wrong colour, though I have to say that it does not 100% surprise me that something like this could happen with them. However, big congrats on the VERY beautiful spec (most gorgeous TdF I have seen so far), and thank you for the journey. A very special handover, indeed! Pecorra is now definitely a thing I would consider on my future build, and I thank you for that. One question though, did you ever consider on going shield-less on the TdF? Or is going shield-less is not even a possibility on the TdF (like the 599 GTO)?
Tim, I am going to order CDF in triple for my 812, after your discussions re GT triple please can you advise on process and material differences as I have only seen triple on a stand alone colour eg Fuji and not applied to a range colour. Did you see CDF triple ?
Many thanks. Pecorra is a beautiful irregular material as befits a natural one, rather than the uniformity of Alcantara, and although not the most practical is, as CD, rightly says 'snugly'! I am flattered to see that they are using it on a couple of the 70th anniversary models and it might just be possible that I jogged their memory as I have never seen it used before. As you will have observed from my spec, I am somewhat of a Ferrari traditionalist and consequently used to feel that wing shields were only appropriate on race cars and the Limited Edition cars. I even specced production cars without them but found myself spanked by Mr Market when it came time to sell so I have given in on that one. Consequently I never considered not having them on this car although it is an option, albeit I am sure at a price. I have just paid extra to have floor mats without the tdf logo on them! Speaking of tradition, whilst carbon shields are to my mind a step too far, an almost defaming of the sanctity of the badge, I am confused on wheel centres. I am wondering, given the quantum of external carbon on the tdf whether carbon wheel centres might look better? Attached is an inevitably inaccurtae colour shot to see the problem. Thoughts please ? Image Unavailable, Please Login
In my eyes your car has a wonderful classical spec and since some time silver, grey and black calipers grow on me and in combination with carbon center caps i really like that and prefer that over my own cars (458 and FF both triple yellow shields, calipers and center caps) BUT on your car the current combination it is spot on! Perfect! The carbon center caps would add a "modern" touch which destroys this special charm your car have.
Just following along, congrats again on the car and the adventure. The color looks great, even in photos... Your spec had me wondering about a few things we "could have, should have, would have" done on ours, but just walked out and looked at ours in the garage and we're completely happy As for the LDM comment, I would agree with you, but in MY eyes, the TDF was the last of the Felisa cars. While LDM was a superb shepherd of the company and brand, Felisa was the engineer who actually made these...cars. We had Felisa sign our door sill (and, if somehow we ever sell the car, I"m keeping that door sill). Also had the production workers sign the engine covers, many of whom we met in the factory....in particular the woman who did the special stitching and the guy who built our engine. Very special and highly recommended.
My own view is that it is simply not worth speccing a triple layer standard colour paint on a standard car as only you will really notice. If you wanted to spec the beautiful triple layer yellow, then it's worth it as that is the only way to get that colour as it's so different from Fly yellow. Triple layer CDF or GT are very similar to their standard brethren, whereas Giallo triple strato has nothing to do with the standard yellow. And they are lot of extra dosh probbaly spent better elsewhere. Sorry to be so negative and only my view.
Great shot! I'm not a big fan of exposed carbon, but as applied to your car it's very nice and "technical", ostensibly because it is a weight saving option. As applied to the wheel centers, I would say no because too fiddly for such small pieces and not immediately recognizable from a distance as being carbon. Yellow wheel centers, besides tying in nicely with the shields, just telegraph Ferrari, even if you can't make out the details of the Cavallino.
This paint color needs the yellow for the shields and the wheel centres. Silverstone for the 812 the darker the better on that one... As others have said, thank you for sharing your Ferrari adventures here!
We debated this at the Atelier, to the point of taping the Giallo wheel centers over the CF ones mounted. We went with CF simply because it seemed to fit in the overall theme of our car (all CF exterior). Also, candidly, the shields (which we have) really clash badly with the Giallo Triplo Strato paint....so we're actually considering going to the CF ones. Yes, I know, sacrilege On the other hand, if we're so worried about "violating Ferrari's design brief", they make them in different colors so I think you're fine with whatever you pick.
As I mentioned to you before the blue color paint you choose is probably one of the prettiest I've ever seen in a Ferrari and looking at the TDF profile in the photo, I only can see beauty and harmony. The fact that the calipers color is so discreet and in a tone not far from the wheels, leave for a side view only three elements of contrast with the blue paintwork, the yellow shields, which are almost compulsory, and the tiny yellow wheel centers. If you remove the yellow from the wheels center the eye attention is going to focus more intensely just in the yellow shield and in my modest opinion the car will loose something.
Beautiful car. Yellow for the caps as depicted. Disagree about triple layer not worth it in non-LE car. Some of us keep our cars and want them just right even though its not one of xxx. Flippers may disagree which explains the quantity of low mileage low spec cars for sale. Enjoy your car - the blue/gray is fabulous.
You misunderstand me. Triple layer is worth it when it is not just a triple layer version of a standard colour, like triple GT for example. When it's a colour of which there is no equivalent in the range, certainly worth it.
I want to see black pecora so bad... Could be my material of choice since it's more noble than alcantara...
While I went for the CF wheel centers on my GS F12, I think you should stay with yellow. It complements your fantastic colour Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks - do you know what the process distinction is, extra layer, more colour, oil based, unsure. I.e. What is difference between CDF and triple equivalent ?
I believe the car gets a primer, colour coat and a laquer coat first. Next up another top coat is sprayed in a different direction with another lacquer coat. Finally a top coat of the colour is applied in yet another different direction with yet another final lacquer coat. That makes the 3 layers and for some pretty intensive work. Don't quote me but that's what I was told.
Thanks - do you know what the process distinction is, extra layer, more colour, oil based, unsure. I.e. What is difference between CDF and triple equivalent ?
Tim - thanks for the clarification. I misunderstood and agree spinning your own color or 3-layer of existing color is LE territory. So many great colors to choose from already for a production Ferrari.
A lot. Per many of my previous posts. I've had samples of a 3-layer equivalent of CDF made for me. First and foremost, depth, the triple layer gives the paint a lot more depth. Then comes the lines ....you see them much better mostly as a result of the shadow / shade provided by the lines..... Lastly the bloody cost - it ranges and there is zero methodology to the way they price it..... I know of someone that recently did a 3-layer on a GTC4L and paid CHF26,000 where the 3-layer CDF was offered to me at EUR16,000 excl.TVA and I paid EUR16k for the 3-laywr in my F12B
