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It would be interesting to see how many members that have ordered a 812 while already have a F12 vs how many that have placed an order for 812 and don't own a F12. I am getting a feeling that the F12 owner's isn't super convinced that the 812 is a replacement for their current car. But I could be totally wrong on this... [emoji6]
You may be right - I ordered one. I have a GTO but passed on the F12 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Being a bit conservative I favour "traditional" colours with stitching. Eg on my F12, I have cuoio with chiaro stitching - could also be just black with red or chiarro. The red inserts on the show car is probably an option and makes it look very toy'ish...
http://www.fiches-auto.fr/images/salon-geneve-2017/ferrari/stand-ferrari%20(5).JPG http://www.fiches-auto.fr/images/salon-geneve-2017/ferrari/stand-ferrari%20(6).JPG
https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/17126588_1876941205924843_6378246646123200512_n.jpg https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/17267613_172206146621058_3680550478887780352_n.jpg 488 seems much more orange than 812's rosso settanta. 812's red is much near to pink, cool red
I had the option of a new dealer spec F12 in Grigio Alloy which, was a pretty nice looking machine. I opted instead for an early 812 as I prefer the design and think the performance will be at a different level and be useable. I understand the historical link to PF and the F12 but to be honest the PF of old doesn't exist anymore and neither does the Ferrari of old. We are moving into a new era with new management and Ferrari bringing everything in-house. The general view seems to be that this is a bad thing - but, like anything, time will tell. Remember that the actual controlling ownership of Ferrari hasn't changed and I'm sure the owners are well aware of the company's history and the massive value it adds to the brand. At the same time, they have to move the company forward and will have a few miss-steps along the way particularly as they try to place themselves as a luxury brand not a car company!!!
My wife agrees, my kids don't. Will be in Geneva soon so will make up my mind then but I am leaning towards removing them and just going with Rosso stitching.
I am not a fan of the coloured stripes on the interior either. Having said that they could work well with some colour combinations especially if no contrast stitching and no stitched cavallino on headrest. I view them as an alternative to the way interiors have been specced for the last few years.
So am I seeing correctly? It looks like the 812 has a unique wheel at every corner. The left side wheels "spin" in a different direction from the right!
I think the left and right are symmetrical, as they have been in all Ferrari's that have an asymmetrical star-spoke pattern (first seen in the 348?). The left and the right both "spin" in the same direction. -F
Yes, confirmed from the Geneva show (it was something that worried me since all official pictures previously released only showed the left side of the car). Anyway I probably prefer another wheel design.
There might be one more category. Poor souls like myself that "need" to buy a F12 in order to get an 812 allocation.
Very interesting point. The 812 has a left set and a right set of wheels, so the stars point in the same direction. The two sides of the car are symetrical. So you can't put the "right" wheels on the left side of the car. Not doing this is a MAJOR design mistake. It's the case on the Standart FF wheels, on the 458 wheels (Subtle, hard to notice) The worst exemple is the Porsche 996 Turbo That makes me mad. Mercedes did it right on the SLR turbine wheels.
It is a great mistake, we don't talk about a Dacia. Look at 348 and 512M, both have correct wheels in that sense.
These pics show what I mean. The wheels are asymmetrical side to side. The ones on the left side appear to spin counter-clockwise, and those on the right spin clockwise. Instead of the spokes joining the center directly, they join the center offset to the left on the left side and offset to the right on the right side. This is so that they appear to "turn" in the "correct" direction on each side of the car. This means a unique wheel at each corner because the rears are also wider and of a different offset than the fronts. This is better, appearance-wise, than having only the same wheel on both sides, since one side would then appear to be going backwards. This is not so good from the standpoint of Ferrari needing to stock four types of replacements instead of only two.
I agree, the wheel design could have been a little better. These wheels kind of remind me of the old Ronal wheels sometimes found on 308's. But I suspect in real life they look good. Yep. Even if the wheel star pattern was symmetrical, you still couldn't put the left on the right and vice versa because the tire tread is directional. It's a design "mistake" when the wheels have an asymmetrical design, yet are the same wheels, so they "spin" in different directions depending on which side they are on. See BMW or Volvo or the like. Ferrari has been doing this since the 348. This is exactly how it should be done. -F
Ferrari has been doing this for some time now, when an asymmetrical spoke pattern is part of the design. This is the right way to do it from a design standpoint. Yes, it results in four different wheels but that's OK, it's just money we're talking about. -F