The Official Ferrari 812 SUPERFAST pictures thread

As you said, this is the first application of EPAS (Electrically Power Assisted Steering) on a Ferrari; with the LF using an electro-hydraulic setup and all other Ferraris being hydraulic.

All three systems (hydraulic, electro-hydraulic and electric) are based on a conventional mechanical rack and pinion system. Their difference is in the way that they power (assist) it.

A hydraulic system uses an engine driven pressure pump in order to help the driver turn the wheel. It can be calibrated to offer different levels of assistance according to various parametres (usually the car's speed).

An electro-hydraulic system is the same, with the only difference being that an electric motor powers the hydraulic pump, thus the engine is not taxed by the system as it doesn't have to provide the power itself via a belt.

Both aforementioned systems are known for offering a high level of feedback since they essentially just help the driver by making the steering lighter, without further interference.

An electric system on the other hand uses an electric motor to either turn the steering column, or the rack itself, based on the specifi application. Since it is an active system (i.e. it does have to actively turn the wheel either left or right based on the driver's inputs) it is trickier to sort out. The other two systems offer assistance by continuous hydraulic pressure and don't turn the rack themselves, thus being nice and consistent in feeling. An EPAS system effectively gets involved with the inputs that the driver makes (as if the co-driver gave a helping hand turning the wheel) and that's why it has been ctiricised for its feel. On the other hand the fact that the system can actually steer the wheel on its own offers countless possibilities (autonomous driving, steer assist in the form of direction suggestions, informations regarding the available traction by becoming light or heavy when the ESP detects a slip etc etc). It is also more fuel efficient and lighter than the hydraulic and electro-hydraulic systems respectively.

Hopefully Ferrari will sort it out, which is not an easy task... Porsche for example didn't hit the the nail on the head at their first attempt.

 

+1.... I loved the car at the private factory preview but saw it again at the show yesterday - seemed even nicer and the interest on the stand was huge !

 

I like the option to pipe the external line of the seat (circled in green) in Picture 1. I was also told that we can choose the colour of the material behind the perforated alcantara inserts which IMO will look pretty good if you go for a 'two tone' interior to make it pop a bit more when opting for the carbon sports seats.
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These accents are LaFerrari inspired.

Pretty cool!

 

Thanks for the explanation. I am fascinated to know how well the new steering has been integrated. You can be sure that the press cars will be heavily scrutinised but as you say Ferrari have a knack of integrating new electronic systems that add to the experience rather than dull it.

 

I am thinking sport buckets as well - How many others are ?

 

Isn't it a classic GT?

 

Would this spec come Close to the idea of a "classic GT"?
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That's spectacular! This could well be the sexiest Ferrari so far.

 

Much better without the shields.

 

Very nice and similar to what i would go for. I think the new Daytona seats and the tdf wheels work really well to achieve the Classic GT spec. Is that Grigio Titanio with Sabbia?

I also think Grigio Ferro with Beige/Cuoio.

What else did you spec inside the car?

 

The config is available at dealers ladies and gentlemen. Already received my config. Too bad I can't upload Pdf's.

Too all the haters about the interior. The folks at Ferrari were very adamant to state that they are using lighter and thinner leathers for a reason. It's not to save costs. I absolutely did not notice that the red 812 on display had a 'cheaper' feel to it then the F12. It felt much better to me. More well thought off. Even the manettino felt better than the current one.
I suspect a lot has to do with personal preference. But it is obviously clear to see Ferrari wants you to go ape **** with the config and spec yours to bits. They even have blue, red and other colours of carbon fiber on the option list. A nicely specced Atelier car will cost at least 100-150K extra.... Of that is about 90% margin for Ferrari.... great business model!

Also have to say that the red colour is absolutely horrendous on top of the chromed out wheels. It does completely hide the classic lines. I felt like someone dumped a bucket of red paint on the car. it was to 'thick'. They should have chosen a better colour as the car does have a lot of classic elegance. I do see the hints of the Daytona on the car. Not talking about the rear as that's an open discussion point... just like the F12's behind...

All in all, I feel very happy to have one on order and hope to receive mine early 2018.

 

Yes.

Close to where I am headed.

I assume ferro and Sabbia?

 

I know this might be a bit childish, but the horse in the grille of the Lusso is just horrible. Not the same as what it used to be on previous F-cars with a V12.

Can someone please check out the horse on the 812? Would appreciate a close up photo

 

Grigio Titanio with a Nero/Bordeaux (or possibly Blu Sterling/Beige) interior would be great color combos IMO.

 

Probably my spec, although I would go TM with more interior details.
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I'm not a hater, I'm a buyer but I'm pointing out fact based on too many years of observation. Even the team at Tailor Made agree that the interior needs work. However, this is the first time I see them confess, as Brian L first suggested, that they are actually using a lighter and thinner leather at all, it being hotly denied up until now, and if there is a reason, it can only be money, as the only other alternative being weight and that would be immaterial. Hopefully one can up spec the leather as well.

Saying there is coloured CF on the options list, does that mean you have one and if so can you please post?

 

It's like in previous models.

 

Lighter and thinner doesn't neccessarily mean cheaper though. If they are trying to save weight from all possible places, kudos to them! Drop leather altogether I would say.

 

Its a GT car, an extra kilo of leather with 800 HP is irrelevant-that was the point of the tdf and will be of the Superfast VS, NOT this car. Its money.

 

yes, my first attempt was Grigio Ferro with Sabbia Daytona seats - I will need more time in front of the configurator to sort out what works better or not.
Anyway - we will se many different approaches, some of us will have aggressive racing cars, others prefer the classic GT attitude - i will go for the latter.

 

Has anybody seen an 812 Superfast configured in Blu Elettrico? I would be curious to see what it looks like.

 

Dear Tim,

Cars have gotten heavier during the past decades, thus car manufacturers are trying to counter the trend. Mazda for example has spent countless hours trying to lighten the rear view mirror of the MX5 by just a few gramms. Surely, all makers are trying their best. We frequently hear about lightweight materials and even lighter wiring harnesses as means of weight reduction! Every kilo counts. The way I see it is that the 812 is a front-mid engined supercar. An Aston DB11 on the other hand is a fat GT.

By the way, a business associate of mine is into the car leather business. He tells me that thickness has nothing to do with quality and price. It's all about the origin (species of the animal, how they've been bred, their gender, whether there were fences and wires in that area that could have marked their hides etc) and the processing and treatment they go through.

Cheers

 

Sorry no photo but I specifically did check that. The GTC4 has standard plastic backing of a very thin metalish front. The 812 is only metal, thus looks proper!

 

That's wonderful. Thank you!