The Official Ferrari 812 SUPERFAST pictures thread

So just spent many hours at the show yesterday. A few key observations.

We had access to Ferrari, McLaren, RR and Lamborghini stands. By far (like miles ahead) was McLaren in terms of its stand, its staff and and access to its INCREDIBLE VIP area. RR and Lamborghini extremely professional and very well organised. Ferrari a VERY distant 4th. Just mayhem and really too many people (tyre kickers) on the stand. Ferrari - WAKE UP and figure out who your real buyers are!!

Ok rant over. Based on this thread I spent quite a bit of time in the 812 and I can confirm some of your guys view of perceived "cheapness" of the interior. I have an F12 and took more interest than normal in the vents and internal components and for sure the same items in the 812 seem like "plastic" whereas in the F12 they were aluminium (air vents being one). Would be good to confirm this.

As this was the second last day of the show the sport seats in the red car had bad leather creases etc. Again benefit of doubt as probably 1000s of people have sat in the car over the last week.

Overall though I LOVE the car and will probably end up with a spec similar to the red car on the show. I had my wife with me and she liked it too and much preferred the red car. I will spec mine more "aggressively" and give it far more of a sports feel than a GT.

In terms of the other cars, the 720S design I am not a fan of but the interior of the 702S is superior to any Ferrari product IMO. The ergonomics of the cabin are superb and the controls very well placed and easy to use. Ferrari take note as McLaren are light years ahead in this area. Being a turbo car and having owned a 650S I will sit this one out for now as the depreciation on the 650S was eye watering.

The Huracan Performante for me was also a stand out. I just like the shape and the cabin and the "sport" feel about the car. Being a V10 NA car also adds to the overall sport feel of the car and it will be an awesome car to throw around the track as well as some very twisty roads. Its also VERY well priced for what it is.

So in summary, Ferrari get your act together and look after your customers in a more professional manner as McLaren and Lamborghini are catching up very fast with their products and are ahead IMO with the customer attention and listening.

812 is (for me) a stupendous product and I cant wait to get mine. Also cant wait to get hold of the configurator to start agonizing. I think I will add the Huracan Performante to the stable as it just appeals to me being a V10 NA car with serious abilities and one which can be used in anger on long country drives (which we do lots of) in the middle of nowhere.

Its great to be into cars right now - so enjoy as who knows how long it will last.

 

Thank you

 

Great vid outlining the tech specs as well: https://youtu.be/Cm25bTNxwxg

 

Another member posted that (assuming the vents are the same as in the Lusso), they are in fact metal. A thinner, lighter weight and actually more expensive item than what preceded. I completely understand why you might feel they were 'cheap', which was also my reaction on the Lusso. But it seems they are not an example of Ferrari trying to cheapen the interior but in fact the reverse.

I haven't seen the Lamborghini yet in person, but I have to confess, even though I am just not a Lamborghini man, this iooks to be the most convincing car they have produced in a long time. If I wanted a change from Ferrari (something I am a long way from), I would head in that direction rather than the 720, at least from a product viewpoint.

 

Still using Poltrona Frau. So either they just changed all the values on their website, for their most prestigious customer, or the leather is not cheaper, regardless of whatever impression people think it gives. This idea that Ferrari want to save a few bucks on the interior to satisfy Wall Street is just anomalous in my view. There are many other things that they would look to do first.

 

That's what I posted and very much hope for, but issues like the unaligned bridge require a redesign.

 

I read your interesting and sagacious post, and it highlighted just how differently we all connect with Ferrari.

This week I received the usual call from Ferrari's after-sale research team in Milan. They asked the expected detailed questions about the buying process on my tdf and predominately about my dealer experience. I know from the dealer's anxiety the answers are closely monitored. I easily gave full marks all round (my only ask was to re-introduce Club Fiorano in the UK as business demands means I can't make the Italian Pilota courses).

Personally I don't do shows (I've several large auto clients so in truth I do many but business only, Ferrari isn't a client lol).

I don't buy anything other than Ferrari. I'm a mad petrolhead and I've been tempted several times but for nearly 20 years I've concentrated on my first love Ferrari, and been rewarded with wonderful product by them.

I've always found Ferrari friendly and helpful relative to my position within their world. In 1999 I had a single Ferrari, a 550 Maranello (which I still have). Ferrari didn't know I existed, and that was cool. Today I have seven Ferraris including LEs so I'm somewhere in their world. But I happily accept there are countless people above me in the pecking order, with more and much deeper relationships (greg23 for example is off the scale with his jaw-dropping collection).

And I'm cool Ferrari don't need to schmooze me. I'm not buying an 812 because with a tdf I won't use the Superfast. If I'm invited to a new LE terrific, if not, it is what it is. For many years I didn't even get a complimentary Ferrari key ring and accepted it. The answer for me was simple: dedicate myself to Ferrari, easy as it's the only marque I've loved from childhood.

I find it fascinating how each of us has an individual journey when it comes to Ferrari. The same river but many different currents.

The other marques are indeed catching up and create superb machines. As a Brit, I admire greatly McLaren but I can't really tell one from another (apart from the P1) and as you note, the depreciation is spectacular on some models. Ferrari might pack their stands, might not return calls, deliver colour samples that are off, introduce air vents and plastic horses not up to Brian's liking (love ya man) but while Ferrari - as you also note - continue to build ''stupendous'' cars, everyone else will continue to play catch up.

 

Camlet1 you made the right choice with the TDF, nothing lacking in that car ... and your build is fun, appropriate for the model

 

Thanks! If I hadn't the tdf I'd definitely buy the 812, it's a huge package for the money; and I'd go definitely go fun with the 812 spec too. The design can take it.

 

I get your post and 100% agree and I will also say that as an Australian, Geneva is a long way away and frankly why should the people on the stand care about us as most (I do btw) wont be purchasing cars via a European dealer.

However when one simply compares to the other brands I made the observation. My first "brand" is and always will be Ferrari but I goto say that the others are building very cool products that find there way into my stable.

 

I might disagree with Shack, Ferrari knows their clients very well, On the other hand, Porsche and co chose their visitors simlpy on interest via website and if they were blinged out for an autoshow (why would you wear a tie to view a car?)

 

What a drawing! Man, I wish I could draw like that.

 

Thank goodness we don't buy these cars for their interiors.....phew.....then we'd have to by a rolls! Lol

 

Re Geneva, I went to the 720 launch, mind blowing. With all respect the marquee affair at Fiorano with PowerPoint smacked of F taking things for granted.

Sounds like Geneva similar.

 

Some decades ago they use to say that when you bought a Ferrari you purchased an engine and got a car with it. Any of the long time true Ferraristas we have the privilege of learning from in here, will be able to tell you that the Ferraris of those times in general weren't very reliable cars and in terms of cabin they were rather minimalist and in some cases not much different from the racing cars. The modern Ferraris despite of the fact that they continuo to have super engines, certainly some of the best that exist nowadays, become much better cars than their ancestors. The state-of-the-art cabin and interiors you find for instance on the F12b or F12TDF, have been a great contribution to improve the overall driving experience and allow us to make a long trip and arrive at the destination in a condition that doesn't need the urgent services of a chiropractic. The aesthetics we valorize and appreciate so much when we look at Ferraris are equally important when we evaluate their interiors and it's the combination of a great engine with the very pretty body lines and the beautiful interior which make a great Ferrari.

 

I don't mean they are cutting the costs to satisfy the street as that would be only a small saving and improvement to margins. However they do have an eye on total margin and rather want to increase it by inducing people to spend more on options. It seems that several Fchatters believe they would spend more on carbon and TM as the interior deserves better so job well done I say. Ferrari has a superb management team that is thinking very hard about all of this.

 

Well said my Friend

 

CAMLET - much you say resonates, but do you really regard the California and 488 as 'stupendous" ?

 

I've a mate who had always fancied having a Ferrari but wanted something accessible.
Without prompting he bought a California. Not something that appealed to me but for my mate, perfect.

As for the 488, I can't comment from experience. I own a Speciale and Speciale Aperta, and IMO the Speciale is one of the most agile cars I've ever driven, the coupe in particular. Assuming the 488 has lost nothing of that agility, it's likely to be stupendous indeed.

Ferrari caters for several segments, whereas McLaren and Lambo do not. That's not to say M or L are wrong. Just Ferrari's church is broader. And in this relatively broad church, what you and I see as perhaps as too vanilla may well be seen by the relevant segment as beyond stupendous.

 

Cheers.

 

Best argument I have heard for a Ferrari SUV. It's a Ferrari, so it's got to be stupendous right?

 

+720

The Mac unveil was a sensory overload. To be fair to F, the 812 is mid-life update vs a brand new platform from Mac.

 

Funny you should say that. I own several Ferrari and all but one are pretty hardcore. If Ferrari launched an SUV that met or exceeded the dynamic qualities of the Cayenne Turbo S, and it looked sensational, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

 

+1

And, I don't get the snobbery about not wanting F to produce an SUV. As long as they don't take the eye off the ball with the core product, why not? It's not like the Cayenne has dented Porsche's ability to make the 918 a proper hypercar.

 

Anyway, best we get back to the 812S. Has anyone any new renders?