The Official Ferrari 812 SUPERFAST pictures thread

I like your thought process...

 

Bianco Bella

 

Something pretty cool about an 800 hp
V12 Ferrari! With carpets and leather seats no less!

 

Yes, I agree that they intend that customers are encouraged to spend more by greater personalisation. The ironic thing is that it is actually significantly more expensive to produce an interior suited to that. The cheapest approach would have been to carry over as much from the F12 as possible, with just minor changes. Perhaps like 550 to 575. A whole new interior is a very expensive thing to design and tool. We're talking in the tens of millions at least. Annual production of about 1,000 to 1,500 cars makes material cost largely irrelevant - much different mathematics from, say, Toyota producing 1m+ Corollas. Imagine Ferrari replacing the metal vents with plastic. About €20 per car saving. Or €20k saving pa. Even if it is a €50 saving, still only €50k pa. Peanuts really.

They wouldn't be able to go to the expense of designing an interior and providing a full Atelier/TM service without customer demand. No doubt they will make a lot of money from that, but if you feel positive about Ferrari you might conclude that they are doing a good thing by offering customers more of what they want. That's why they would bother to spend what it costs to completely redesign and tool the interior. So, in my view it is as you say, not a cheaper interior but one made suitable for upgrading. A subtle but important difference.

 

The problem is, it does actually feel cheaper as many have commented.

I am told that the door is cheaper to make than the F12 door, that is from a leather standpoint and there are many other subtle differences, all of which could save. For example, the standard backdrop is all black and if you order a beige interior, it doesn't change the area behind the seats etc so it can just be produced en masse. We don't know the full details yet, nor do we know what is for the show, unangled plastic bridge etc, and what is for production, but by nibbling away in many aspects, it starts to mount up to a meaningful sum which flows straight to the bottom line, and many of these issues cannot be addressed via options. It also starts to feel less premium.

I have no problem spending more on options provided I can restore that premium feel.

 

I think to the 'shiny new toy/prestige accessory' market, as opposed to the true enthusiast/F-chat market, the new interior is a must. A carry over interior would not sit well with the majority of customers, who are not enthusiasts

 

Well the engine has got 12 cylinders and more HP
And torque than the F12 and TDF.

And the virtual rear wheelbase is an improved version 2.0
Than the TDF

And it has a lot of new aero tricks too.

So is the glass still half full?

And there is the TM program to satisfy other perceived shortcomings.

Buyers can decide --buy a used F12 with better looking interior or buy the 812.

 

Glass is more than half full. Doing 1000's of kms across Europe in my F12, I can think of no better place to be. Wife is happy (even in the sport seats), luggage space is big enough (for her to bring all the female stuff they need) and car is "stupendous" for autobahn as well as twisty bits. 812 will just amp it up even more!! Cant wait to get it !!

Whats to complain about

 

Is a TDF more special? Of course it is. It costs more too. And If one adds special custom paint and bespoke TM seats and other trim, the cost goes even higher.

Most of the TDF owners, needed to own an F12 first.

For me an 812 will do just fine.

Will there be a special 812 later, maybe an Aperta? Probably--- judging from history.

Will that one be made in limited numbers and have a more bespoke interior and exterior and higher cost ?

I dare say so.

So perhaps there is a grand plan in play!

 

Not loving it!

 

+1

 

The Barchetta style hoops destroy it.

 

That's hideous. Just wrong in every way.

 

Barchetta itself being kinda sharp w/out Barbie hoops ...
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Today in Basel, Switzerland.

Marcel Massini
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Thank you Marcel! Those pics are better than most I've seen from the Geneva stand!!

 

Great! Thanks for sharing.

 

Thanks Marcel. Nice to see the car in more natural lighting conditions. I think that is the actual Geneva show car?

 

Really liking the colour

 

I can confirm this is the actual Geneva car which now is sent to every Swiss dealer for one or two days. Today Monday and tomorrow Tuesday at the official dealership of Niki Hasler AG in Basel.
Later on this week to Foitek AG in Zurich-Urdorf, and on and on.
The Geneva motorshow ended last night, Sunday, 19th March 2017.

Marcel Massini

 

Thank you Marcel.

Anyone have any idea when the first road test cars will be available and we can see this car on the street, the acid test?

 

Amazing!!! Thinking of the reactions when it hits the roads

 

There continues to be the usual problem of difference between paint bumpers and bonnet ... I think it's only a matter of surface inclination, but it is not very pleasant to see...

The car is beautiful