Yes, why not? Have a spare battery pack in the pits that can be swapped in a matter of seconds. Why Formula E didn't think of that?
It's not about the impact of 20 race cars belching CO2 , but about the ethos of still using fossil fuel for frivolous activities when it will have been legislated out in other areas. And one day, excessive noise will be seen for what it really is for many people: a nuisance, a health hazard and anti-social!!!
So what you're saying is that all frivolity should be outlawed? That sounds like fun. Racing is dangerous. It should not be allowed at all. Spending millions on race cars is a waste of precious resources. Buying expensive cars when people are starving in this world... Wasting time discussing issues on a forum when there's so much work to do out there... Definitely got your point across. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
No, not your quote but my reply to you, hence why your username is referenced. This is what I (ie. my opinion) said to you: F1 will be fully electric one day. It has to be to be relevant. You cannot be purchasing fully electric road cars and other things are racing. I've already said somewhere in this site that Formula E will become F1 one day and anything IC will be confined to historic racing ... but FE has a lot of work to be done to make it ready for the title of F1. One day FE cars will be lapping faster than the almighty 2004 F1's. Pete
I can tell you what I did. I stopped watching altogether. I only watch Moto GP now. And I bought a Huracan. Sound matters. NA engines are awesome and there is no performance loss with great engineering. The first thing my husband did to his GT-R was exhaust because it was too quiet. All of the old guys who want to quietly drift off into the boredom sunset can watch Formula E. But unless F1 makes some changes, it won't last.
Jana, give F1 another look this year. I know there has only been one race so far this year but to me, the new cars look and sound better - as well as undoubtedly perform better - than any of the hybrid F1 cars so far. Maybe I was just starved for good racing after a long and cold winter but I like the new cars. I too, though, would like them better with screaming NA V10s or V12s. Speaking of GT-Rs, I've heard a few with aftermarket mufflers (maybe muffler delete bypass pipes?) and I could not believe how good they sounded. There is one in particular that I have seen a few times on the road and it has to be the best sounding turbo car I have ever heard. Congrats on the new Huracan and GT3 (I saw this in the Porsche section). Are you going with aftermarket mufflers for these...how does the stock Huracan sound?
I just don't see it. Yes can see FE replace F1 quite soon as in the sport where manufacturers will compete in, but can't see F1 going full electric in the next 20 years, unless they're hell bend on committing suicide. As for being relevant...has it ever been? I'm still not able to buy a formula 1 car for the road from any competing manufacturer. This whole focus on ''staying relevant'' is really quite alien to me. Hybrid cars existed before F1 ever had them. F1 has never raced diesel cars yet people can buy them. Electric turbos where already in road cars before F1 got them. None of the current hybrid stuff in F1 is in road cars and unlikely to be implemented in the same way, only simplified versions of it (that exist already anyhow). Le Mans allows much more freedom on developing such technical stuff and is much more relevant to road cars if you ask me...at least the cars somewhat resemble them! Formula E is perfect for developing electric engines. IMO F1 needs to focus on being entertainment instead of a faux road relevant formula. There's no reason why it can't be successful (IMO much more successful) if it focuses on that rather than faux road relevancy. And when it's successful when it focuses on entertainment, money is to be earned, and some manufacturers will be interested in racing still. It's prestigious. Whether they'll join as engine manufacturers (sponsored or not) or full teams, who knows.
Because batteries in these cars are not like in RC toys. Just like in F1, they need to dismantle the whole car to get to the batteries, and there are some safety issues too. They want to make batteries that last a whole race for next year.
because the battery weighs over 200kg. It's not a plug and play battery. For a 200kg battery that lasts 50km, at a 5th of the power (in race trim) of an F1 car. The more power you use, the more heat and the more it consumes. I don't know the maths behind it but it definitely isn't ''give double the power and drive half as far''...it's worse! Electric only in F1 as we know it (300km races) is a pipe dream for the hemp clothes wearing vegetarians.
The tree huggers getting sooo excited about the electric car finishing the 5600 mile Dakar rally.can go for 200km in race trim but then needs 1 hour to 'quick charge' the batteries. This electric car is the first zero-emissions vehicle to finish the Dakar Rally : TreeHugger
I did scan the first race, and while I'm happy that Ferrari is finally competitive, I still thought the race itself was boring. The only challenging was way at the back of the pack. That's not going to interest people for long. I think the new cars look kinda clunky. I'm glad they're running better but they still sound like crap. The GT-R sounds so much better with exhaust work. We will definitely do exhaust work on the Porsche, probably Fabspeed for exhaust, intake and ECU flash. Not that it needs much. The Huracan sounds absolutely incredible. I don't plan on doing anything to it.
Have you seen the speed at which they are able to change a damaged nose cone or a broken rear wing? The same way, they can perfectly well swap batteries, using trolley jacks, unbolting the empty battery, then hoisting and bolting a new one in a matter of seconds using pneumatic tools. If the cars are designed with easily removable battery pack, it's quite feasible. I would like people to stop adopting the "not in our life" attitude, and open their mind to new solutions, instead of constantly using negativity to block any sort of evolution. There is too much resistance to change in this world, IMO. With this kind of attitude, vaccination and penicillin would never have been adopted!!¬
The traditionalists said that about many things, Bas, which they couldn't imagine to happen. A non-stop round-the-world flight was impossible, they said; it has been done 3 times already. Flying aircraft on solar power alone is impossible they said; it has been done. So stop being so negative, and try to think ahead. If scientists have been able to invent the many new technologies we are enjoying today, I think that cracking battery problems will be easily fixed when they really put their mind to it.
This reminds me of a LeMans car that was built to swap the rear end (incl. the tank) to save time during refuelling.
It's a quote from PSK addressing you by name. The quote is not attributed to you if you take another look.
Hahahahahhah. Exactly! This tech isn't even trickling down from F1. It's total BS. BMW had an electric turbo in a diesel SUV before they showed up in F1. Off with Todt's head! Sorry got carried away.
Two things. Swapping massive batteries is not relevant to road cars. Racing is pointless; medicine is important.
The difference in technology and knowledge then and now is a thing you forget. We already possess a lot of the technology, we know a lot more than we did ''back then''. The way you state ''if they really put their minds to it'', you pretend as if the technology giants have been sitting with their thumb up their ass, not developing batteries. They haven't, and they do. Batteries have been hugely developed over the last 20 or so years, and every single time they have to get thinner and power ever more power hungry devices for longer, because people use them all the time and don't want a dead battery. At the same time, the hardware gets developed at a staggering rate and one of the key things they develop is making sure they get as much performance by using as little power as possible. All this is also in the Formula E batteries and ''engines''. If you honestly believe lithium batteries are at their infancy, be my guest. But they're not. They're pretty close to the end of their development cycle. And a bit of racing isn't going to make them give 5x the performance and last 6x longer. It's completely impossible. I wish it was much better, I wish the batteries where capable of this. Because it would mean that a few thousand or so cars world wide driving on petrol wouldn't make an ounce of difference to the Ozone layer, and people would enjoy seeing them much more rather than wage war on them. And on the same note, they couldn't give 2 flying ****s about 20 or so cars with big massive V10's for 300km a few weekends a year, as any graph the greenies show about how damaging it is to their environment will be utterly pointless and they can go bother cows anuses instead, as they pollute a hell of a lot more.
you can view that differently and say E cars save lifes. They will change the face of the sport. I don't know for what reasons you guys buy your cars, be it Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. Certainly there is stuff the brands represent, there is passion built into the vehicles, there is technological performance. Do you not think those things are subject to change over time? Where have the purist sports cars gone? Or maybe let me rephrase, what is a purist car now compared to then? AC? GPS, yes please. Throw in a parking assistant and heated windows while we are at it. And remote controlled keys, please. Everything changes over time. Why do small companies such as Lamborghini survive? Because they are part of something bigger, e.g. AUDI. Audi is much more subject to the tides of the time. I doubt you'll get a NA Lambo in 10 years time. More so, your supercars of the day will all be electric or hybrid. F1 would be a ridiculous dinosaur in such an environment.
The same people who want all electric probably also think we should stop breeding cows and let them die out. Then we could all eat tofu instead of steak. Don't you care about the environment?
