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A winless car that won't be sold into the corse Clienti programme because they're too expensive and complicated to run. Not that much really.
As it's just a show car with no engine, I would say $75,000.00. But no, I'm not a buyer at that price. But the answer is (as always), what someone is willing to pay for it.
I've contacted Judd before and they said they are able to put a judd engine in just about any formula 1 car chassis i wanted to use I wonder if this chassis is useable on the track, or it will collapse?
I think so with all the internals gutted out...got it off a twitter feed but they do sell 1:1 full scale show cars at a fraction of what the real one costs...still expensive though.
It's a real chassis so why will it collapse? Big problem will be the gearbox casing, since the rear suspension is attached to that. Either way, seeing your previous history on track I'd play with lower league formula's before attempting an F1 car...and I certainly wouldn't pay excess for a Ferrari chassis which needs an incredible amount of modification to adapt the Judd engine and a gearbox...if they'd even sell it! A 90s F1 car would be a much better option.
An F1 show car is a static display car only, with no engine or running gear, a 1:1 scale model if you like. Quite often these cars are built from damaged-repaired chassis that have been patched up to look visually perfect, but in reality cannot be put back on a track ever again as the chassis is too damaged and weakened. Others are just made up from spare chassis' that were never used, and old chassis' became obsolete due to design updates throughout a season. As for suggestions of $75K for this car, maybe if it were a Red Bull Mercedes or McLaren show car, but for a genuine Ferrari show car, I'd expect them to be asking for $100K+ (and you would more than likely have to sign a disclaimer stating that you will only ever use it as a static display car, with no running gear) Edited to add: Ferrari have also made the decision that they will not sell complete cars that date from 2014 onwards due to the expense of running the power-units: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/ferraris-2013-f1-car-will-be-its-last-go-sale. So the chassis of this car may well be in perfect shape, but the cost of fitting a non-Ferrari engine to it would I suspect, be ridiculously expensive, and not really worth doing as it wouldn't really be an SF16-H any more, and again, the sales contract may stipulate that the car can only ever be used as a static display car (Of course, a future mega-rich owner could ignore that, but if anything went seriously wrong, such as a major accident occurring, then they could find themselves in a whole load of trouble one way or another)
ah! my awful history on track! now i've been acting like a technical director in my small team and somebody else will do the driving.
Sorry but that just looks like the property of someone who walks into their front room and says: "I must get round to hanging that car on the wall one day!" every time they look at the car. It's the motorsport equivalent of buying a nice picture and then leaving on the floor, propped up against the wall it's meant to be hanging on beccause the owner can't be arsed to hang it up. (I appreciate that an F1 car takes a lot more effort to put on a wall, but if the car was on the wall rather that just sitting on the floor, it would look a lot better to Me!)
Ha ha! That's exactly what I thought. Great idea, horrible execution. That said, I've always wanted an F1 car to hang on the wall. And a wall big enough to do it!
Depends what it is. If it's an actual F1 car less running gear, it's $100k+. BMW Williams F1 cars are sold without running gear (BMW won't provide engines) with a range I've been quoted of 85,000 GBP to 97,500 GBP. The former having been a test car (FW26A-01) and latter actually raced (FW23-01). If it's a car made specifically as a showcar with real bits scattered around, but otherwise not a real car made for track use, it will be substantially less. As said above, it would really only be a 1:1 scale model at that point even if it looks like carbon (more like overlays at that point).
If it hasn´t got engine, how do they stick the rear part of the car to the front? BTW, I´d love to build a simulator rig around that.
Under the rear bodywork, these sort of display cars have usually a makeshift tubular frame to link the rear suspension to the bulkhead behind the driver seat, where the engine would be.
There will be no mechanicals in this car. No engine, gearbox, anything. No electrics. It's basically a piece of static decorative art. With a rubbish race history (if any). Value? Nothing material. Just what an enthusiast is willing to pay for a large toy car model.
Will it fit length + width wise, probably...but issue will be crank case height. Cosworth V10 would be a superb engine, but for the sheer costs involved and modifications, I just wouldn't do it to a Ferrari, seems very pointless to me. It'd just get a more easily available Jordan/Benetton/Arrows/jaguar and throw the Cosworth into that. It'll be cheaper and the V10 definitely fits into those chassis safe for a little modification.
its true that it dones't have any mechanicals, however if you look at pretty much all f1 cars for sale in the UK, they are all for sale in this condition. a few boutique shops such as www.f1heritage.com? co.uk? would charge a few tens of grand of labor to put a cosworth or maybe some other engine and drivetrain and electronics in there. then u'll get a complete running f1 car for roughtly under 300,000 USD. That is less than a 458 speciale, let's be honest, though the running cost would kill me of course. haha . one of the judd guys told me if you want reliability on your f1 car, rev limit it to 10,000rpm, you are good for 10,000 km. 5
