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  1. em42

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    Do you happen to have pictures of the rear side? The exhaust on this car is so spectacular! Would be great to have a video of how it sounds...
     
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    One pipe per cylinder!
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    The Dumb and Dumber Diablo in front? I seem to remember he also had that car too.
     
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    fantastic car! congrats on owning this LP400S :)
     
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    Thank you very much for this precision, Joe.

    It actually confirms my thoughts...

    It is now obvious to me #1120002 was the "final prototype" before the Countach production. It was not built upon any customer request in 1974... but already in Autumn 1973 by the factory, for themselves originally.
    The first #1120001 needed some improvements before starting the production, and #1120002 got all the needed changes (front and rear light design, interior, seat pattern, dashboard, central pontoon, window layout, no more chrome on the outside, and many more details...). #1120002 would be presented later at the Geneva Motor Show in March 1974.
    That car would be sold eventually, delivered through Achilli Motors in Milano on April 13th. And so did #1120001, kept by the factory's boss and co-owner Mr. Leimer.

    Therefore, I believe #1120004 could really be the first "customer-ordered Countach".
    If Walter Wolf got the second car, #1120006 on June 8th, this would mean #1120004 was actually the first one!
    As I said, it is clear #1120002 was some sort of pre-production Countach. It was even written as such in the excellent and very detailed book 'Countach' of Jean-Marc Borel.
    And after all these years of research, photos and testimonies... I was NEVER able to link #1120002 to Empress Farah Diba of Persia!
    I am thinking she may actually got #1120004. Completed on May 8th and delivered on May 14th to Roma dealer S.E.A. (same dealer as most/all of the Shah's Lamborghini!).
    It's all about the dates.

    We do not know anything about #1120004 before being spotted in America in 1980, do we? That could explain.
    I however found #1120002 was registered in Berlin, Germany already by 1978 (not completely original and repainted white)

    I could be wrong as much as I could be right here.
    By no means am I pretending to know it all nor trying to convince anybody to agree with my theory.
    However there are some crutial questions to ask ourselves here. That's what I'm pointing out, using known facts.

    Does anyone here happen to know the original ownership of #1120004 throughout the 1970s? And when was it imported into the USA?
     
  9. joe sackey

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    Very interesting, and I agree.

    When I spoke to Walter Wolf, I got the impression that he wasn't a precisionist when it comes to dates & numbers!
     
  10. joe sackey

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    Very cool Kazu.
     
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    Funny that after so many years, you still say..maybe should have kept this one. I also secured the Dump and Dumper Diablo for him, as well as the Ghost Busters Ambulance and other Movie cars.
     
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    I attended Techno Classica at Essen in Germany last weekend.

    Lamborghini had a stand and in addition to Miura 5030, an LP400 chassis was displayed.

    The chassis is 1120204 according to the display board, a RHD car and I believe previously registered as TDP 269Y in the UK.

    Lamborghini staff on the stand hope the car can be completed and shown at next years show.
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    Excellent! Thanks a lot.
     
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    This is all great news, here is yet another Countach being fully restored.

    I believe 1120204 belonged to Adnan Khashoggi whose claim to fame was as the World's Richest Man at some point.

    Another view of the totally stripped chassis.
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    The chassis is a true work of art. It's great to see Lamborghini really recognizing their history !
     
  16. joe sackey

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    Its good news for every single classic Lamborghini out there.

    In years past I had my doubts about the current Lamborghini's commitment to its classics, but I feel differently now seeing what they are actually doing.
     
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    As i told you via PM, i saw an ebay add in 2013 about a german car magazin which included a story about a Lamborghini Countach LP400 with some Mercedes applications (CW311 style).
    That car was also white and had Berlin plates on, so obviously it´s #1120002.

    Unfortunately i cannot find the link or a photo of the ebay add. If i remember correctly the seller of the magazin was the owner of the car too.



     
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    thank you replay.
    this car is 1121026? i think 1121020.
     
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    Good question.

    I have some doubt also, because, 1121026 had a wing at all times, and, the sport exhaust shown in the image with the wingless car with EE.70510 plates is the second series type which came into being in the early 80s.

    Below is an image of Armin Johl's 1121012 which Valentino crashed (sorry Vale), and it shows the type of exhaust that would be on 1121026 at that period.
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    Yes, it is #1121026, at a meeting in Germany during Autumn 1979.
    The rear wing was installed later on (late 1979 or 1980) with custom-made side plates.
    I have shown those black & white photos to Armin Johl recently. He remembers the car well and he said those special ANSA exhaust mufflers were made specially for him at that time.
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    Interesting to see the original wheel color was originally silver.

    Perhaps we can thank Armin for the Ansa F1 sport exhaust.
     
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    #23398 Lambocars666, Apr 11, 2017
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    I remember. Funny that I received a message from another German enthusiast who remembers he saw an advertisement from German Lambo dealer Kremer, from 1982 or 1983.
    They offered "the first Countach built", a car that goes "over 300 km/h".
    #1120002, no doubt about it.
    It will be hard to find this ad/magazine... but soon or late, I'm sure we will. ;)

    Here's #1120002 when spotted in Düsseldorf in 1989.
    Repainted yellow again. The rear 'Lamborghini' and 'Countach' badges are not in the same position as originally.
    Same for the turning signals moved up front, and the front blinkers changed to the half-orange type. The rear antenna was removed too.

    The last two photos show #1120002 when new in 1974.
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    I swear, you have to be a complete moron to work in these admin regulatory positions. Anyone with 1/2 brain capable of thoughts hurts looking at this non sense, like the little bumpers will save you for a 300km/h crash
     

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