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Is this the ultimate 456?

Discussion in '456/550/575' started by Vereeken, Apr 19, 2017.

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  1. Vereeken

    Vereeken Formula Junior

    May 16, 2014
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    Belgium
  2. killer58

    killer58 Formula 3

    Jun 30, 2010
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    Pretty car, but what do you do with it?
     
  3. Vereeken

    Vereeken Formula Junior

    May 16, 2014
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    Store it for another 15 years ;o)

    You can not drive a mileage virgin.
     
  4. riccardone

    riccardone Karting

    May 24, 2015
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    Estimate seems low given the prices for the two 456s that sold at Scottsdale, no?
     
  5. 500tr

    500tr Formula 3

    Feb 28, 2004
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    The first owner lost a lot of money storing his beautiful car. The second had to pay a lot of money to bring the car on the road again. What is the sense behind doing that 🤔?
     
  6. MogulBoy

    MogulBoy Formula Junior

    Sep 23, 2004
    972
    Devon
    Looks great. Ultimate spec? Quite possibly, although I recall reading something about very late production 456M GTs having a revised instrument binnacle that placed the rev counter centrally as per the 575M, but I cannot find any proof or indeed any more information readily to hand.
     
  7. 500tr

    500tr Formula 3

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    Definityly wrong...
     
  8. 500tr

    500tr Formula 3

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    Nero or Nero Daytona?
     
  9. Fennicus

    Fennicus Formula Junior

    Apr 10, 2015
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    Pekka T.
    Hi,

    Yes, VERY expensive 500kms! :D

    I think even if I were to write off my car completely, with the 8.000 kms so far (out of 96.000) I would have a better euro/km ratio. ;)

    Cheers,

    Pekka T.
    Fin.
     
  10. 2000 456M

    2000 456M F1 World Champ

    Sep 29, 2007
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    Allan
    What a waste.

    Reminds me what it was like owning a perfect set of matched Schedoni luggage: You can't fly commercial with it because it's guaranteed to get trashed; if you go to a nice hotel and give it to the bellman, you worry that someone else's luggage will scuff it, etc. So I sold it to a Saudi on ebay.
     
  11. INTMD8

    INTMD8 F1 Veteran
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    Jun 10, 2007
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    I would.
     
  12. Laserguru

    Laserguru Formula 3
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    MogulBoy, my 2003 456M GT has a manufacture date of May 2003 and a serial number that seems that it must be one of the last 10 or so built. My instrument binnacle is identical to the one shown in these photos, so I don't know of any changes that were made.

    The Bonham's listing says the car was delivered to it's first owner in April of 03. Hard to say how long it took to sell. My manufactured in May of 03 car was first registered in the spring of 2005!! Toward the tale end of production, sales languished and some cars took a while to clear. I suspect the original owner of my car got a pretty good deal on it to get it out of the showroom....finally.
     
  13. Laserguru

    Laserguru Formula 3
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    The two that went in Scottsdale hammered at US $110k and $148k. The higher priced car was very low mileage in the 6,000 mile range if remember correctly while the $110k car was not quite as nice and had around 16k miles.

    The Bonham's range kinda of encompasses the Scottsdale results and with the virtually unused, undriven aspect of this car, it should be really interested to see how it goes.
     
  14. riccardone

    riccardone Karting

    May 24, 2015
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    But if the 6k mile one went for $148k, this 300 mile one should far exceed the high estimate of $160k, no?
     
  15. Laserguru

    Laserguru Formula 3
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    As others have noted, the car is a virgin....after 14 yrs! One has to hope that whatever collection has been keeping it has been taking the right kind of care for the aging of stuff that decays with time regardless of mileage...rubber seals, gaskets, hoses, etc. as well as all the rotating mechanical stuff that needs lubricants distributed regularly.

    I think one would have to carefully inspect the car to know how much reconditioning work would need doing to make it reliable to drive. Time is no friend to parked cars!!

    Those who already have a 456 can surely hope that it far exceeds the $160k. I'll be cheering for it....but it might not for these reasons.

    Guess we'll see how well the public rehabilitation of the 456 reputation is really going with this one.
     
  16. 500tr

    500tr Formula 3

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    It should if some people are crazy enough to buy a not very special Ferrari for a no-use ever... I won't and I'm very lucky for having some miles on my odometers 🙃
     
  17. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    I will be there and I will bid on it...
     
  18. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Looks great in black with no shields. 300 miles from new? That's a shame IMO...T
     
  19. 500tr

    500tr Formula 3

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    What's your idea behind? Driving? I suppose not.
     
  20. MogulBoy

    MogulBoy Formula Junior

    Sep 23, 2004
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    Thanks. I'll put that crazy notion to rest.
     
  21. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    There were rumors late 575Ms came with Superamerica engines, too. Not.
     
  22. AlfistaPortoghese

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    I'm with James. Driving a Ferrari is the best thing a clothed man can do.

    You either buy to drive, or to speculate. I prefer driving. If you really want to have a pile of money sitting around and not enjoy one minute of it, there are several other, less complicated options than to buy a V12 Ferrari.

    A 500km car... The only logic course of action is to drive it and enjoy it. Waiting for a mainstream 2+2 to appreciate is one of the longest waiting games I know (I own a Mondial...)

    The 456 is one great Ferrari. I love it. It begs to be driven. Someone bought it new and drove just 500km? What a shame, what a waste.

    Kind regards,

    Nuno.
     
  23. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    Thats a good question...

    I have one with 9000 km what I drive.
     
  24. puckybadger

    puckybadger Formula Junior
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    The ultimate 456M GT is mine, and its coming out of winter hibernation Saturday :)
     

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