Another point is this mesh panel which is located between the exhaust pipes. As you see on the car at Adamo Motors, it was replaced by a panel with round holes too. The car which was at Ferri Auto in 2009 (which is the RM car stated by Thibault too) had a VT mesh panel. On one of the photos of RM you can recognize the VT mesh panel too. SE30 had a carbonfiber panel and no mesh like VTs,SVs,Roadsters... Attached is a photo of another car with the correct panel. BTW this SE30 panel is NLA since years, so they bought a VT panel. For me another point, the car at Adamo is the same like RM. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
To be clear, I only have listed the differences between the pics. I draw the same conclusion as you, there are too many things in common, it's clearly the same car converted back to its original spec.
One other small detail. Above shows the SE at Adamo Motors (undated, are there any 2009 or later cars in their showroom?), notice the small sticker on the rear at the center. Below shows 020 in about 2008 (same Italian registration when it was for sale in 2009) with what appears a similar sticker; at the time the car was being converted to original specification. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Same marks and stains for 020 and the car at Adamo Motors; seems irrefutable Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hi Tonnie, understood and no harm intended. I think it is important to have transparency when a car is publicly offered for sale and I therefore like to share my views here, that is what this forum is about. Will send you a pm.
With RM's representation of the identity of the SE30 being called into question, what about that of the "Gold Package" Countach which was discussed earlier?
Joe i saw HLA12110 in October 2015 in Italy near the factory. Back than it had red interior and a rear wing. I assume it came fresh from Japan and was there for a service. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Was for sale at Bingo Sports in Tokyo : 1987 Countach Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
i know tastes varies but i think there is a general consensus on beauty and ugliness. Frankly this interior is one of the worst I have seen ever. Who cares if the factory did it? Do you want to look like the King of pimps?
Should read Blingo Sports ... I do like the red leather interiors though. The gold not so much ... Needs a bit more contrast.
This would seem the most plausible explanation to me as well; but it would imply that the pictures taken at Adamo Motors and uploaded to their Facebook and Instagram would have to been taken somewhere between approx. 2006-2008. It is kind of sad that someone decided to turn the mileage back; it is great to see a car being used that much and it should also be no reason for concern as long as the car was well maintained.
We have different info, but we will invest this, because we do not want to misguide anybody, but we need real proof, we also have to protect the consigners rights.
The car was brought by the consigner to Polo Storico to be repainted and certified, and also the idea was to remove the goldplating, but they came back to say the goldplating was done from new. The director of polo Storico , the mechanic who worked on the car and the secretary told me all at Techno Classica in Essen, that all was done when new. Ofcourse it is not everybodies taste, but that is withn everything in LIFE.
i have been in contact with the seller throughout the auction he confirmed minutes after the end that it was sold. I wanted to buy, but the static and distraction on that sight kept me from bidding. So, like a normal person, after, I reached out. Seemed the deal was done before the end.
Mike its the same car we are talking about, ZA9CA05A1HLA12110, said to be "the first Countach to be restored by Polo Storico". The red leather has now been replaced by white. According to the auctioneers: "Finished new in white over a white leather interior, the car was further outfitted with much of its interior trim gold-plated, including the steering column, gated gear shifter and gate, instrument cluster, trunk and engine handles, door sills, and even the exterior badging, as well as exhaust pipe tips. Lamborghini has confirmed that this is one of just two Countaches to ever leave the factory equipped as such. Following its completion, the car was delivered new to the United States, where it remained for a number of years before being imported to Japan. It was eventually acquired by its current Dutch owner and sent to Lamborghini Polo Storico for an engine-out restoration. The car was found to be in good condition overall before the work commenced, and it was fully stripped to bare metal and refinished in its original colour combination of white over white, and all of its 14-karat gold trim was refitted. The car, the first Countach to be restored by Polo Storico, is accompanied by a book of restoration photographs, chronicling the work done by Lamborghini Polo Storico, as well as restoration receipts and a certificate from Lamborghini’s Polo Storico department confirming the restoration and authenticity of this rare Countach." If the gold-plating was done when new, perhaps documentary proof in the form of a dated authentic build-sheet proving same will accompany the car.
