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  1. jrcdds

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    #1 jrcdds, May 3, 2017
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  2. vrsurgeon

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    #2 vrsurgeon, May 3, 2017
    Isn't that made with magnesium forged from pure lava deposits of mount Etna? If so I doubt it. Would be interesting to see if a carbon fiber piece could be fabricated as a replacement.
     
  3. jrcdds

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    #3 jrcdds, May 3, 2017
    Well put and I am thinking so!
     
  4. John_K_348

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    #4 John_K_348, May 3, 2017
    Cool, go for it.
     
  5. Stout

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    #5 Stout, May 3, 2017
    It is magnesium and is weldable. It is also removable so you can replace it if you can find one.
     
  6. blkdiablo33

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    #6 blkdiablo33, May 3, 2017
    Has anyone repaired something like this before ?
     
  7. mwstewart

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    #7 mwstewart, May 4, 2017
    I had the same thing on my last F430. It was replaced under warranty however I understand the root cause is incorrect adjustment in the roof or weakening of the elastic straps, which should be checked periodically.
     
  8. bocaf430

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    #8 bocaf430, May 4, 2017
    I bought my F430 with the same broken piece... I thought maybe someone pulled on it and cracked it... I was thinking maybe some type of super strong epoxy glue? But I never attempted to fix mine ..... yet
     
  9. jrcdds

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    #9 jrcdds, May 4, 2017
    Thanks to the reply's everyone!

    bocaf430, I tired a couple different adhesives and nothing worked at all....not even a little bit...

    mwstewart, good to know so once I do get it fixed I hopefully not have it happen again

    Stout, good to know

    Thanks again everyone!
     
  10. northsyd

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    #10 northsyd, May 4, 2017
    same thing happened to mine... I'll take a pic of the fix.
     
  11. hessank

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    #11 hessank, May 4, 2017
    Have you tried JB Weld?
     
  12. jrcdds

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    #12 jrcdds, May 4, 2017
    Nope, both where different versions/modifications of cyanoacrylates....neither did jack....guess I could try JB welb but that being said I think I finally got a line a on part from a member here so that should be even better if it pans out.

    The indy guys I know said its between 7-20K for a new frame (the part is not sold by itself) although the dealer gave me a quote for just over 3k including labor for new one.....crazy the dealer is quoting a frim fee that's way less that the indy guys....but cool for me, extra cool is the used part pans out good....

    John
     
  13. blkdiablo33

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    #13 blkdiablo33, May 4, 2017
    please share your fix
     
  14. jjsaustin

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    #14 jjsaustin, May 4, 2017
    Same thing on my car on the driver's side. I wonder why this is a frequent issue and if they always fail on the driver's side.

    Someone said this is a removable part. When I last looked at this years ago, it did not look like it was easily removable, but maybe I'm wrong.

    If you could get this off, it would be easy to take to a weld shop to fix.

    It would be tough for glue to work unless you had some backing plate to help add strength.
     
  15. Stout

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    #17 David007, May 5, 2017
  18. netman

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    #18 netman, May 5, 2017
    pieces are aluminum. Can be welded and painted to match. I had both sides done over the years and still holding well.
     
  19. jjsaustin

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    #19 jjsaustin, May 5, 2017
    Did you remove the pieces to have them welded?

    if so, any tips on removing them?
     
  20. blkdiablo33

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    #20 blkdiablo33, May 7, 2017
    Can you please give details
     
  21. bocaf430

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    #21 bocaf430, May 7, 2017
    would like to know how to have welded also....welded on the car? or did they remove the part to weld it? thank you
     
  22. netman

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    #22 netman, May 8, 2017
    the parts were removed from the car. Welded, painted to match and reinstalled.
     
  23. jrcdds

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    #23 jrcdds, May 9, 2017
    Netman, do you happen to have any pictures of the repair??
     
  24. jjsaustin

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    #24 jjsaustin, May 9, 2017
    I would be interested to know who removed the part and if this a DIY or not
     
  25. netman

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    #25 netman, May 10, 2017
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