New Ford GT

Amazing how the nfgt makes the last one look like it might have a steam engine under the hood! Wow and its only been 10 yrs

 

That's absurd lol

 

How "large" does a human being have to be to remove the entire seat cushion just to drive it?

More like extra, extra large!

That CF flooring looks incredible. Really nice.

I get almost everything about this car BUT the three 1940's looking Zenith radio knobs on the dash. Not sure what they were thinking here...

IMO -- too many things on the steering wheel for my taste but maybe it works. Looks pretty confusing though.

 

That was done to keep the controls within reach of the driver. The seating position is fixed, so the pedals and controls need to come to the driver. The car has a pedal box with a big adjustment range. I sat in the car at a recent SAE event and the controls/pedal box seem to work well.

 

In all fairness to the car & the owner (pink shirt) don't know why he drove it without the seat. Maybe he's getting it 'adjusted'.
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That makes sense but LaFerrari had the same issue and didn't make a wheel that packed with that much "stuff". In fact it's almost the same as 458.
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It looks like the additional buttons on the GT steering wheel are for cruise control/radio/Bluetooth, which are now fairly common on steering wheels. I'm not sure where the laFerrari has these controls.

 

Im 6'1 not large and when I sat in the old Fgt my head was on the roof..the dealer said he could lower it with the seat rails I said no..and didn't buy..at least this guy is making the effort!

 

I'm 6'4", 220lbs and remember when back in 1978 when I had a FIAT 126, had to remove the entire driver seat to fit in behind the wheel.
Used to sit on the back seat.

 

I'm 6'3" 225lbs and fit fine with a tiny bit of head room in my '05. My guess is the seat wasn't adjusted correctly for you test fit. I can even wear a helmet but that is with the seat slightly forward and seat back slightly reclined.

 

LF doesn't have phone, radio controls etc.

 

https://youtu.be/7MPuzxaYig8

 

Can you understand what this guy is saying? The engine is noisy but his accent is not helping.


The car does sound very good -- very racy.

I think those who want to compare it to the 488 or Mac 720 are missing the point. This car is not a GT like they are. And, thank heavens someone actually has the balls today to make what is as close to a real high performance world beating race car for the streets and general public.

 

Another useless video where you can't hear what the guy is saying

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Go to 2:28 and see how fast the rear wing moves. It looks like someone sped up the camera. Don't blink!
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From the reviews it seems like the GT looks like a million $ car, drives like a quarter million $ car. Tons of exclusivity and styling is driving price. I still believe it's the best looking car made in the last ten years. I never expected it to beat its competition dynamically even though Ford made absurd claims that internet fan boys loved to bask in. I'd happily pay low 300's for one new but I just can't get over a price that's double a Huracan P.

 

Based on your response, I'm not sure of your understanding of what constitutes driving dynamics. Over and over the conclusion is that the GT is a singularly unique driving experience that offers race car levels of feedback. I'm curious how you define what separates a million dollar car and a quarter million dollar car dynamically.

https://www.topgear.com/videos/supercars/video-track-new-ford-gt-supercar

"What you very quickly realize with this car is it's not just a run of the mill supercar like a 488 or a Lamborghini Huracan or an R8 V10. It's a much, MUCH more mechanical supercar than that. It's a proper hardcore track one. It really is."

 

Oh I don't know, engine may play a big part. Gearbox may play a big part. A million $ car should crush a quarter million $ car in hp, throttle response, acceleration etc. just like LAF/P1/918 did when they came out (Pagani is like jewelry so I don't count them). Aside from the trick suspension, what Ford has done wth the GT does nothing to separate it from its competition and its driveline and engine is behind. It's selling for more based on looks and exclusivity. You can disagree if you'd like but you won't convince me otherwise. I'd wager if you drove a 720s and a GT back to back you'd prefer the 720s but you'd feel more special in the GT because you know what you are driving in and what it looks like.

 

I'd wager that if you drove them on track thet Gt would be street ahead. I'd also wager that other than short thrill ride bursts no one is using anywhere near these cars capability on street.

But yep if comfort and 1/4 mile times is the measure the 720 is superior.

Of course no on or hardley anyone is going to take thier rare Gt tot eh track, so its an irrelevancy from a drivers perspective.

 

Ok so your complaint is not really related to driving dynamics. Engine complaint is what it is. The DCT in the GT is the same Getrag in the Ferrari.

I can guarantee I wouldn't prefer a 720S. I've had every iteration of Super Series so far and none of them are comparable to the GT. They have always been monstrously fast, but they are different tools for different jobs. I had a Huracan for two years. Same. The GT is not an everyday supercar, and if you try and assess it against the daily driver supercar set, you will be disappointed. It is an entirely different concept and execution. Sutcliffe asks if the GT is too brutal for public roads; I asked the factory to leave out additional NVH panels.

And just for the record, the GT is $450k not a million, so...

 

I think people are missing the point of this car.

It was really not designed for the street. Ford wanted to go racing and it had to homogolate enough cars to qualify for Le Mans. True, it did it in reverse order but Enzo bent the rules also.

What they ended up with is really a race car that's been tamed a bit for the street but still has its "Mr Hyde" part showing.

For this I give them credit. Its nutty but it's unique. Ferrari would take a street car and turn it into a race car. Ford did the opposite. AND, they did the opposite in the 60's so it's true to its heritage.

I'm guessing there are other cars out there that are cheaper, ride better, are more user friendly, and could beat it in specific areas. But, who really cares?

What you're getting if you have one is slightly civilied Le Mans racer complete with all it's racing warts showing.

That's pretty unique, and pretty cool. I'll give Ford credit for that. As a street machine it might be a waste. As a driving experience it might be the ride of your life.

 

At least if your park it in our garage and never use it, it's a HELL of a thing to look at.

 

Not sure how a car with more weight and less power than a 720s would be a street ahead (on the street).

I agree here completely. Although that'd be a shame considering it seems that's where the GT shines!

 

This writer nails it IMO.

https://petrolicious.com/articles/what-its-like-to-finally-drive-the-ford-gt

 

Yep.... pretty much what I said earlier.

Instant classic? Maybe. It might be the last car of it's type ever built.

 

so the reviews are reinforcing what i felt when i first saw the car at ny auto show 2 yrs ago.

amazing looks, suspension, investment potential, tech, race pedigree, driving dynamics, heritage. but compromised engine and very high price.

sorry, but nfgt does not do it for me. the high price and investment potential would stop me from tracking it which is where it shines. and the turbo v6 is not what i want at this level. fine in a nismo gtr. not in a supercar.

probably take a performante, 720, even 488, definitely 488gto over this