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Discussion in '308/328' started by aaladesawe, May 28, 2017.

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  1. aaladesawe

    aaladesawe Rookie

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    How reliable is the 1983 308 gts


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  2. Patrick Dixon

    Patrick Dixon Formula 3

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    It depends on how and if it's been maintained.
     
  3. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #3 Dr Tommy Cosgrove, May 28, 2017
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    Well maintained they are just fine. No worries other than the universal usual that come with putting miles on a 34 year old vehicle
     
  4. GordonC

    GordonC F1 Rookie
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    Agreed - if all maintenance is current, they are very reliable.

    That means all fuel hoses and coolant and heater hoses have been recently replaced (ie not 34 yr old originals), the cam belts and idler bearings have been replaced, oil, trans fluid, coolant, and brake fluids have been flushed recently, electrical system is clean with a good battery, etc.
     
  5. aaladesawe

    aaladesawe Rookie

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    Belt service intervals
    I only drive 1000 miles per year


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  6. Irishman

    Irishman F1 Rookie

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    Who cares?

    I have '78 and never let me down in 10+ years.




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  7. aaladesawe

    aaladesawe Rookie

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    Wow that's great


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  8. aaladesawe

    aaladesawe Rookie

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    How often is the dreaded belt service
    Quite expensive


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  9. Irishman

    Irishman F1 Rookie

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    There are two lines of thinking on the belt service. One is Ferrari saying every three years. The other is the common line of thinking here in this forum for every five years.

    My personal recommendation is for a five year "major" service, which is not just the belts, but much more than that.

    When I bought my car about ten years ago that major service was about $2,500 at an independent shop. Others can chime in but I'm guessing that cost is maybe double now?
     
  10. aaladesawe

    aaladesawe Rookie

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    Belt service done about 3 years ago but coolant hoses and tank replaced this month
    Cost 2000$ at Ferrari of Tampa bay Florida
    Is this reasonable?


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  11. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Just belts, parts and labor, is about 1K in the south. There are a couple of coolant hoses that are a little bit of work to R and R. The one under the intake manifold is a tad of a job.
     
  12. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Not on a 308. The engine stays in. You dont start getting into serious money until you get to the 348
     
  13. howl

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    you don't just need to stay on top of maintenance, you need to have the right mechanic. I'm at 20 years of ownership. 2 years were a nightmare, then I got a great mechanic for 10 years with no issues. Then I needed to switch and had a bad 3 months right after the new guy "touched" the car. Found Another highly regarded mechanic and trouble free since then. I am in the full major se vice every 5 years camp. Also, replace all rubber bits before they dry out. When well maintained "by someone who specializes in these cars" , they are highly reliable.
     
  14. aaladesawe

    aaladesawe Rookie

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    Anyone knows any reliable specialist in the Tampa bay Florida area?


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  15. Fairview

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    These Ferraris have very few, if any, vices. They are robust in design and overbuilt in most respects. They are straightforward and surprisingly simple to maintain. I can't speak to the complexity of an engine or transaxle rebuild, but normal maintenance, even timing belt replacement, is within the capability of most competent owners.
     
  16. aaladesawe

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    I am also looking for an independent Lamborghini specialist for my 2005 e manual gallardo


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  17. aaladesawe

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    What do you mean by competent owners
    Sounds simple if you know how
    I am a medical doctor do you think treating your self is within the capability of most patients?
    But got your point
    I think any good mechanic should be able to do the service


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  18. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Most important maintenance item - regular driving! And not just pootling down the highway; these cars NEED a good track day / hillclimb etc on a regular basis.

    Only breakdowns in 15 years:
    - distributor cap came loose because the autoelectrician 'checking' the car didn't replace correctly :( 2002
    - thermostat failed at a track day 2012
    - split a radiator hose (after the car had been in storage for 4 years when I had to go overseas to work...) 2016

    Just did a 4400km trip last month (including 500km of closed road 'special stages') and the car is happier than she's been for ages (as is her owner). But note, the car did spend most of the 6 months prior to this trip being 'recommissioned' after the storage. Interestingly, Gordon C's list pretty well matches what was done over that time, plus an overhaul of the carbies.

    I do my cam belts at 4 year intervals - no good reason except that's what I decided to do!
     
  19. mike996

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    In 2008 I bought an unknown-to-me 328 in Las Vegas, immediately upon seeing it. It had just had a belt change and the day I purchased it I had 4 new tires installed. Two days later I drove it to MD, nearly 3000 miles, arriving on the afternoon of the third day. Car was bulletproof then and remains that way.

    I concur that 5 years for a belt change is fine.

    I just realize you asked about an '83 308, not a 328 so I guess my response MAY not be relevant... :(
     
  20. aaladesawe

    aaladesawe Rookie

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    Thanks everyone
    for your advice


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  21. Fairview

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    Yes, I should have defined it better. Here is what I meant:

    If an owner has successfully maintained most any other vintage sports car, he or she should be competent to do the general maintenance on a 308 or 328. These are magical cars, but you won't need magical powers to do the required maintenance.

    And I think most owners will agree that once you get your newly acquired car properly sorted out, it will stay that way for a long time.

    Best of luck with your quest! Jeff
     
  22. Brian A

    Brian A F1 Rookie

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    True. The issue of "good mechanic" is the same as "competent owner". There are many of us, including doctors, who enjoy doing the mainenance as part of the car hobby. Survey others for reputation of the person you are thinking about using.
     
  23. jdamon

    jdamon Formula Junior

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    A car is a lot easier to work on than a human! Especially a 34 year old one. It is totally fine to pay a reputable shop to service a 308, but as far as cars go, they are relatively easy to work on yourself. Many of us do our own service and maintenance as it's fun, and not complicated. Hope you buy it and enjoy it! Totally different experience than driving a gallardo :). Hope you are not too disappointed!
     
  24. aaladesawe

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    Mar 26, 2017
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    Thanks have had the car already for a year now
    I am just undecided whether to sell or keep the car



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  25. Patrick Dixon

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    Sell it then. If you are not sure then sell it to someone who will appreciate it.
     

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