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930 Turbo Carrera

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  1. E_Man

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  2. dgwx

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    I have a 77 turbo and I am trying to figure out what an appropriate asking price would be. I am not posting it for sale here, there are plenty of appropriate places for that, but you folks are experts and maybe you can give me some idea of a reasonable price. I spent a good chunk of money on the mechanical stuff, but the negatives to top pricing are probably whats of interest here. The car is a driver; its not numbers matching, it needs paint, has a 915 transaxle, and 78/79 brakes. It does have a correct but not original 3.0 engine and a few other things like those oh so valuable snorkel headlight washers and a correct radio including the microphone.
     
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    It's tough to say without more complete information. The 915 trans is a significant negative, the brakes are worth $$. Less than $100K certainly.
     
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    Paint and brakes are at least $30k as I had mine painted and just the front brakes are $2,600 each, or at least they were a couple years ago. No idea what the transaxle is going for as I didn't need one. Non matching engine is obviously a big draw back for collectibility and value so as said previously likely well under $100k.

    Not all 77 930s had the radio with microphone mine came with a Becker Mexico and power bar w/o a microphone.

    Sounds like your car is one to be driven and enjoyed w/o thought of collectibility IMHO.
     
  5. dgwx

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    Exactly, and thats what I do with it. I just need to find someone who wants to drive a 930. Needing paint makes it much more attractive as a driver to me.

    I don't want to post an ad here with everything about the car, i'm just trying to get a feel for its value. Thanks for the feedback.
     
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    $2600 for front brakes? I replaced my front rotors, bearings, rebuilt the calipers, replaced all the brake hoses and bushes in the front end, rebuilt the steering rack with new boots, tie rod ends, ball joints, zinc plated every nut bolt and washer in the front end. All the bearings in the steering column for $2600?
     
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    Do you really know exactly what you got relative to replacement parts? Did you see the box and part number on the part or did someone just do the rebuilt job for you with no supervision on your part? I know you don’t live in the US but OEM parts are scarce all over the world. I have shopped for 930 parts on several different occasions while restoring my car and 930 parts are just not easily available. Only about 3,000 3.0 liter cars were made so 40 years later all 930 parts are scarce to source. I have spent days calling all over the US looking for new and used parts and often came up with zilch.

    The front brakes on the 930 are aluminum and the OEM replacements are $2,600 each. So I suspect your replacement parts are not OEM aluminum breaks for the 930. The SC break parts are way less expensive and relatively available but the 930 were racing breaks for that period and the SC breaks were not the same, whole different deal. Many folks I am told, either have substituted SC parts or aftermarket parts in lieu the OEM 930 part? When I was quoted the $2,600 each I was also shocked. I went online and to several places selling new Porsche 930 OEM break parts for a 75-77 930s and the price was pretty much all at that figure if they even had the part at all. Most places didn’t have or could not get the OEM part.

    OK that said what I had done was to have my original calipers machined and sleeved with stainless sleeves to fit the OEM plungers in the calibers which is really a better than new fix but using my OEM caliber part. The cost including everything was a total of $850 for both front breaks.
     
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    These are the Turbo 3.0 calipers. Same as late 2.4S and all 2.7 Carrera '74/'75.
     
  11. tomblue3

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    Does anybody know which hood crest has been used on 1975 cars? I have seen a few 911/930, first paint (!!), 1975, with the old version of the hood crest (orange bars).
    Although two books state the oppposite: the new version (red bars) has been used since 1975.

    What is your experience/opinion? Pictures are welcome...
    Thank you!
     
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    From my understanding, it is the Hood Badge with the red bars, and "901" written on the back.

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    #7288 randkin, Jun 7, 2017
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    The seller says "I have for sale a brand new never mounted ATE brake caliper suitable for mid 72S onwards including RS Carrera and up to 930 Turbo." this doesn't seem to include the 930 or he would have said “and including 930 Turbo”?

    Are they aluminum calipers? My impression is that the 930 calibers were AL & unique to the 930 or when I did all my research into these parts someone of the many folks I contacted would advised me that other parts were interchangeable and would have tried to sell me these parts? I believe all the early 3.0 liter 930 calibers were only aluminum for weight reasons. Other calibers were not AL and not the correct parts. It has been several years since I did this research about 2010/ 2011 as I recall. I suppose a new supply of brake parts could have been found since my research but I am inclined not to think so.

    There in is the issue, the AL brake parts wear more quickly as you would expect. Evidently because of this reason those who actually raced the cars ultimately changed to aftermarket break parts for higher/longer service. Others who did not race the cars changed to other similar and less expensive Porsche parts which were more readily available at lesser cost. This is what I was told during my search to replace the calipers for a more reasonable price than $2,600 each? Perhaps the vendors were just BSing me so I would go away since they had nothing correct to sell me. At the time I had the part number off the caliper but I no longer have that part number readily available.
     
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    This is the same badge as my '77 930 (with 901 on the back) I have it sitting on my desk. But have no idea if it is the same for the '75 model.
     
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    Speeding ticket from October 2nd 1977 from the original owner of 9307800668

    72 miles per hour in a 55 mph speed zone.

    Roger Morrison said to me "I was going MUCH faster than 74 mph. He let me off easy..."
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    These are the correct front aluminium calipers fitment including 3lt turbo, that is why I posted.
     
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    First owner listing 9307800668 for sale. His asking price was $31,000, 1k less than a 1971 Lamborghini Miura SV (at the time) that was listed in the same newspaper.
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    1983 Porsche Parade period video including video of the stock Turbo Division Auto Cross where car 9307800668 driven by Dr. Robert S. Brown's took first place.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIciCMPa_yQ[/ame]
     
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    OK then all the people I contacted (12-15 places) were just BSing me about the parts and availibility. Also Porsche had been using the same brakes on their cars since 1972? If so why was there not a plethoria of brakes when I was looking for them? No one had them at that time, hard for me to figure?
     
  23. mrar

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    I am not sure what happened when you were looking randkin.
    I have five cars with these style brakes fitted, a spare set off a 76 turbo and a rare set off a 69s ( told these are one year only) on the shelf. Please see the picture from the internet below as there were three different ali s calipers available over time.
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