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  1. ttforcefed

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  2. joker57676

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    For me, its the seat inserts that kill the car. They are terrible. Generally, I love grigio with red.

    And, the price does seem a little high. It's not terribly high, but high. What's the harm in offering 80% or 90% of what they're asking and seeing what happens?

    Before Wynn lost his dealership here, it was well known they listed their cars at least 10% high, but then came right down when a real buyer walked in.



    Mark
     
  3. tboniello

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    The 599 is the car to buy right now. Greatly undervalued. The stick cars have all appreciated in value, and the "special" F1 cars (Scud, GTO, etc.) have gone up... these will be next, relatively speaking.
     
  4. mixxalot@yahoo.com

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    Agree on the 599 as a good F car deal. These were over 300k new sticker price compared to 200k for F430 right? My concern with the 599 is maintenance on the V12 engine compared to the V8. I think 599 would be a great complement to a 430.
     
  5. Texas Forever

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    You know we're talking about Ferraris, right? Frankly, it doesn't matter. All Ferraris are expensive.
     
  6. Themaven

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    599 HGTEs have already gone up over here, 20% up in asking over the last year or so. Early cars not so.
     
  7. Island Time

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    Seeing something with a price on it doesn't necessarily mean it's seriously for sale.

    It could mean many things. In this case, If you want the car....go offer what you think it's worth to you. But, be forewarned...don't offer it if you're not serious about buying it.

    You never know...
     
  8. mixxalot@yahoo.com

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    Well spoke with the upset GM today at FoS he was unhappy with my 3 star yelp review. Well hey at least I was honest and did not give them zero stars. I told him the asking price was much higher than market prices. He then goes on to tell me at great length that he paid 125k for the car but do we really believe a sales guy? Come on folks! I think that keep shopping and find good one for 90k is better value.
     
  9. 338Lapua

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    One of the things to keep in mind is that if you find the car you want, you should be careful haggling on the price for an extended period. Sure, make an offer but in the end there are only so many cars that are exactly what you're looking for. When I bought my 430, the car had all of the options I wanted and in the color I wanted. Sure I worked with my dealer on price and in the end I got the car. I wasn't going to worry about a few thousand dollars. I understand everybody wants to get a fair price, but sometimes that will leave you looking forever. Just my .02 and only that. Good luck finding a car. It will be great fun once you get!
     
  10. Statler

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    Why would you rate them negatively for their pricing versus how they treat customers, the buying experience, etc. kind of ****** move. I'd say they dodged the bullet but they didn't since you chose to not do business with them yet still slammed them on media feedback. Red flag for private sellers here.
     
  11. otakki

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    Ask him to show the documentation that supports his claim. If he refuses, then there's your answer.
     
  12. mixxalot@yahoo.com

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    Thanks that's a good idea. Market shows a wide range of prices. And no I did not give bad review the GM was butt hurt that I'm not willing to pay 150k for a 110k car. I was honest. I like the customer service there it is top notch which is what I said earlier just not the pricing. You guys know that using money wisely is key unless you are filthy stupid rich.
     
  13. ///Mike

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    ^^^This.
     
  14. Statler

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    So since you didn't do business with them why the negative yelp review? Do you give bad reviews to all stores you think price their products too high that you don't buy them? Sound like a horrible customer with whom to deal.
     
  15. ///Mike

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    It's like walking out of a restaurant because you think the prices are too high and then leaving a review even though you didn't eat there.
     
  16. mixxalot@yahoo.com

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    Dude like I said I gave 3 stars and nice review. That is not a bad review it is ok. A bad review is 1 or zero stars. The GM freaked out and way over reacted. As for prices, I don't mind paying more but not 100x more. Maybe if I was a stupid rich playboy born into 100 billion dollar fortune and did not care that would be different and I'd drop 5 million on a La Ferrari or something like that and not care how much dealer was making.
     
  17. papou

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    Completely disagree, Outrageous power,easy to drive, build quality off the charts.
    Ferrari FF. IMHO.
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  18. mixxalot@yahoo.com

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    Huh? Do you mean the 599 is not a great car or that is trumps the 430? Darn it, guys, now I need to look into a 599 as well. Well the good news is 2 used Ferraris less than one new car at least :)
     
  19. Statler

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    Do you review other places from which you don't purchase ananything? Restaraunts? Roofing companies that cost too much?

    Your profile says future CEO. What to do when people who aren't your customers give reviews that aren't favorable because they think your company makes too much profit on every deal........
     
  20. AClark

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    I'm unclear, how is it that you know how much profit exactly they are making? Maybe they purchased a car high, and spent a lot of money making it ready for sale?
    Just because they bought it too much money does not make them bad for selling it for a high price , or maybe I'm missing something ?


    ^^^^ This


    Why does the seller have to show a buyer how much they paid for a car? Why do they have to show how much they spent fixing the car? Don't get me wrong, full disclosure would certainly make things easier !
     
  21. Texas Forever

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    <Heavy Sigh> Dude, I give up. You need to go buy a Viper or something.
     
  22. Island Time

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    #47 Island Time, Jun 9, 2017
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    what they have in the car, what they paid for the car...blah blah blah...none of that's important, nor any one's business but their own.

    What is important is what is the car worth to you? from reading this thread, you've yet to make a firm offer. haggling over price only means something when both parties are throwing out real figures. One party cannot haggle with themselves..

    If you've not made a firm offer... you're what's called "a tire kicker".

    Tell 'em what you'll do
     
  23. mixxalot@yahoo.com

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    Hey I am the customer buying the car and they should EARN my business. Not the other way around. Arrogance and bitter whining from a sales guy just has me buy from another dealer thats all.
     
  25. ttforcefed

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    haha, good luck - wrong game.
     

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