The Official Ferrari 812 SUPERFAST pictures thread

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYDVGHUZF1I

812 drive with Rafaele di Simone at Fiorano

 

I'm assuming you meant 'proof'? There was nothing wrong with his accusation which was about the unnecessary controlling way that Ferrari go about things and all he did was cite the sort of things that were common practice and well known about Ferrari test sessions.

He backed down? How so?

 

What a load of rubbish!
So an F12 will be the same price as a 599 with 3 times the mileage and twice as old?
Used F12 prices have stayed the same in the UK for the last three years, so I can't see them moving anywhere fast especially with the limited supply of the 612 SF for at least a couple of years in the UK. The F12 is such a good car it will hold its value.

I might be going out in a 612 SF in the next couple of weeks, but it will be old news by then I guess.

 

+1

 

Grazie

 

I ärgere. Imho the F12 will keep it's value very good. It is a amazing car in it's own right whatever new Standard the 812 may set.


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As you deduced well I meant proof. By backing down and I didn't mean that C.H. was defeated. When Chris Harris wrote that Ferrari was cheating and tuning the test cars, I think he was left with few options. Presenting irrefutable and undeniable proof that what he stated about Ferrari practice was true that's what he should have done in the first place but not being able to do it and continuo insisting in the accusation would make him look like a fool. I think he underestimated Ferrari's hard reaction but I believe he took the best intelligent decision by letting the dust settle and not insisting irrationally on something which is almost impossible to prove.

Chris Harris is a motoring journalist I like very much, I particularly love his video destroying the F12b tires, and Ferrari cars are also part of my soul. I wish that each one do their job as well and as professionally as they can and we all benefit from that.

 

Forgive my ignorance, what happened with Chris Harris?

 

early basic 599 with 30 kkm in Switzerland can be negotiated @ about 125k CHF
early basic F12 with 30 kkm in Switzerland can be negotiated @ about 230k CHF
new, but basic 812 will hit the floors @ 360kchf
while EU-imports into Switzerland will be 30k below that...

So yes, there is room for the 230k F12s to go lower (still speaking "basic" cars); at least in Switzerland; maybe not 35 % in most cases, but 20 for sure...

of course a late manual hgte 599 will not loose any of its value....

may be different in the UK (RHD; GBP to Eur rates far away from their peaks late 2015 etc)

And thanks for the rubbish...

But back on topic; found another video of the testdrive in the 812

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ETvd-QN7E

 

I'm not an expert on the subject but in short I believe it all started some years ago when C.H. wrote an article suggesting Ferrari cheated by kind of running the test cars. Ferrari reacted "violently" and banned C.H. from future tests of their press cars. I believe it all ended up some years later when C.H. made a good review of a borrowed new Ferrari car model and Maranello decided again to grant him the possibility of driving future new model press cars.

 

where I wrote running I meant running….

 

tunning

 

Ok, got it, thank you.

 

+12 gents! [emoji4]

 

Actually though the sticker price of F12 in U.K. is steady they are not moving and whereas it used to be hard to find a good one there are some nice cars out there sticking. I think anything over £220 is hard to achieve retail. So definitely softening and high 100s for cars with weak spec.

 

Grey with dark-painted directional wheels, from Ferrari's official website
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And some test drive photos here:
Ferrari 812 Superfast test su strada. Le foto della Rossa più potente - DriveMag

 

DC will love this spec less the wheels.

 

Same car, on Fiorano's test track

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In 2011 he wrote this article...

https://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

There were no great revelations in it, the only shocker being that a motoring journalist stuck his head above the parapet and actually went on record with what we all already knew. As a result, Ferrari had a big strop and banned him from officially reviewing their cars. A year or two later he got hold of a 458 Spider (loaned from someone, not Ferrari) and did a great vid of him oversteering it around some track. The vid got something over a million views. As a result of its popularity, Ferrari capitulated (yes, Ferrari gave in, not Harris) and started giving him cars again. And now it seems he's right back at the top of the list.

 

I love this car and the styling but why did they choose that photo ?

 

It looks oddly ill-proportioned in that pic.

 

It is the worst photo I have seen.I think it is because the rear 3/4 element (which is the most awkward bit of the design) is raised as a result of the road it is on.

 

I think it looks very good in this picture and argento suits the design very well!