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  1. Why'd they cancel tomorrow???? Weather? Link please.
     
  2. jgonzalesm6

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    maybe.....thats news to me....I have'nt gotten anything on the 24 hours news site or twitter

    windows that I have running.
     
  3. Maybe it wasn't final practice then, ehhh? 'Just practice 2 as usual? ;)
     
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    about to post quali 1 in a bit.........
     
  5. You've lost me entirely..... ;(
     
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    #156 jgonzalesm6, Jun 14, 2017
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    Full free Qualifying results (1) from the 2017 Le Mans 24 Hours at the Circuit de la Sarthe

    1. Conway/Kobayashi/Sarrazin JPN Toyota Gazoo S040 Hybrid 3m 18.793s LMP1
    2. Davidson/Buemi/Nakajima JPN Toyota Gazoo TS040 Hybrid 3m 19.431s LMP1
    3. Bernhard/Bamber/Hartley GER Porsche 919 Hybrid 3m 19.710s LMP1
    4. Lopez/Kunimoto/Lapierre JPN Toyota Gazoo TS040 Hybrid 3m 19.958s LMP1
    5. Jani/Tandy/Lotterer GER Porsche 919 Hybrid 3m 21.165s LMP1
    6. Kraihamer/Webb/Rossiter AUT ByKolles ENSO CLM P1/01 Nismo 3m 28.887s LMP1
    7. Collard/Perrodo/Vaxiviere FRA TDS Racing Oreca 07 3m 29.333s LMP2
    8. Prost/Senna/Canal SUI Vaillante Rebellion Oreca 07 3m 29.851s LMP2
    9. Gonzalez/Trummer/Petrov CHN CEFC Manor TRS Oreca 07 3m 30.502s LMP2
    10. Graves/Hirschi/Vergne CHN CEFC Manor TRS Oreca 07 3m 30.847s LMP2
    11. Jarvis/Laurent/Tung CHN Jackie Chan DC Racing Oreca 07 3m 31.024s LMP2
    12. Menezes/Rao/Dumas FRA Signatech Alpine Matmut Alpine A4713 3m 31.065s LMP2
    13. Panciatici/Ragues/Negaro FRA Signatech Alpine Matmut Alpine A470 3m 31.439s LMP2
    14. Piquet/Beche/Heinemeier-Hansson SUI Vaillante Rebellion Oreca 07 3m 31.636s LMP2
    15. Rusinov/Thiriet/Lynn RUS G-Drive Racing Oreca 07 3m 31.945s LMP2
    16. Rojas/Hirakawa/Gutierrez RUS G-Drive Racing Oreca 07 3m 31.963s LMP2
    17. Allen/Matelli/Bradley FRA Graff Oreca 07 3m 32.477s LMP2
    18. Guibbert/Trouillet/Winslow FRA Graff Oreca 07 3m 32.987s LMP2
    19. Lammers/van Eerd/Barrichello NED Racing Team Nederland Dallara PS217 3m 33.796s LMP2
    20. Hedman/Hanley/Rosenqvist USA Dragonspeed – 10 Star Oreca 07 3m 34.046s LMP2
    21. Owen/de Sadeleer/Albuquerque USA United Autosports Ligier JSP217 3m 34.166s LMP2
    22. Aleshin/Sirotkin/Shaytar RUS SMP Racing Dallara PS217 3m 34.407s LMP2
    23. Lacorte/Sernagiotto/Belicchi ITA Cetilar Villorba Corse Dallara P217 3m 34.846s LMP2
    24. Barthez/Buret/Berthon FRA Panis Barthez Competition Ligier JSP217 3m 35.559s LMP2
    25. Konopka/Calko/Breukers SVK ARC Bratislava Ligier JSP217 3m 37.226s LMP2
    26. Patterson/McMurray/Capillaire POR Algarve Pro Racing Ligier JSP217 3m 37.814s LMP2
    27. Lafargue/Lafargue/Zollinger FRA Idec Sport Racing Ligier JSP217 3m 40.162s LMP2
    28. Keating/Bleekemolen/Taylor USA Keating Motorsports Riley MK30 3m 40.813s LMP2
    29. Cheng/Brundle/Gommendy CHN Jackie Chan DC Racing Oreca 07 3m 41.393s LMP2
    30. Chandhok/Moore/Hanson GBR Tockwith Motorsports 3m 41.660s LMP2
    31. Nicolet/Nicolet/Maris PHL Eurasia Motorsport Ligier JSP217 3m 42.117s LMP2
    32. Thiim/Sorensen/Stanaway GBR Aston Martin Racing Vantage GTE 3m 53. 117s GTE Pro
    33. Rigon/Bird/Molina ITA AF Corse Ferrari 488 GT 3m 53.235s GTE Pro
    34. Calado/Pier Guidi/Rugolo ITA AF Corse Ferrari 488 GTE 3m 53.123s GTE Pro
    35. Turner/Adam/Serra GBR Aston Martin Racing Vantage GTE 3m 53.296 GTE Pro
    36. Priaulx/Tincknell/Derani USA Ford Chip Ganassi Team UK Ford GT 3m 54.118s GTE Pro
    37. Christensen/Estre/Werner GER Porsche GT Team Porsche 911 RSR 3m 54.243s GTE Pro
    38. Vilander/Fisichella/Kaffer USA Risi Competizione Ferrari 488 GTE 3m 54.305s GTE Pro
    39. Lietz/Makowiecki/Pilet GER Porsche GT Team Porsche 911 RSR 3m 54.564s GTE Pro
    40. Gavin/Milner/Fassler USA Corvette Racing Corvette C7.R 3m 54.876s GTE Pro
    41. Magnussen/Garcia/Taylor USA Corvette Racing Corvette C7.R 3m 55.047s GTE Pro
    42. Hand/Muller/Kanaan USA Ford Chip Ganassi Team USA Ford GT 3m 55.059s GTE Pro
    43. Dalla Lana/Lamy/Lauda GBR Aston Martin Racing Vantage GTE 3m 55.134s GTE Am
    44. Briscoe/Westbrook/Dixon USA Ford Chip Ganassi Team USA Ford GT 3m 55.553s GTE Pro
    45. Ried/Dienst/Cairoli GER Dempsey-Proton Porsche 911 RSR 3m 55.692s GTE Am
    46. Johnson/Mucke/Pla USA Ford Chip Ganassi Team UK Ford GT 3m 55.803s GTE Pro
    47. Yoluc/Hankey/Bell GBR TF Sport Aston Martin Vantage 3m 55.953s GTE Am
    48. Krohn/Jonsson/Bertolini HNK DH Racing Ferrari 488 GTE 3m 55.966s GTE Am
    49. Rees/Brandela/Philippon FRA Larbre Chevrolet Corvette C7.R 3m 56.259s GTE Am
    50. Mok/Sawa/Griffin SIN Clearwater Ferrari 488 GTE 3m 56.333s GTE Am
    51. Bachelor/Lemert/Al Qubaisi GER Proton Competition Porsche 911 RSR 3m 57.507s GTE Am
    52. Smith/Stevens/Vanthoor GBR JWM Motorsport Ferrari 488 GTE 3m 57.890s GTE Am
    53. Mac Neil/Sweedler/Bell USA Scuderia Corsa Ferrari 488 GTE 3m 57.267s GTE Am
    54. Wee/Katoh/Parente SIN Clearwater Ferrari 488 GTE 3m 57.321s GTE Am
    55. Howard/Gunn/Bryant GBR Beechdean AMR Aston Martin Vantage 4m 57.463s GTE Am
    56. Long/Al Faisal/Hedlund GER Proton Competition Porsche 911 RSR 4m 58.196s GTE Am
    57. Nielsen/Balzan/Bret USA Scuderia Corsa Ferrari 488 GTE 3m 58.249s GTE Am
    58. Wainwright/Barker/Foster GBR Gulf Racing Porsche 911 RSR 3m 58.427s GTE Am
    59. Flohr/Castellacci/Beretta CHE Spirit of Race Ferrari 488 GTE 3m 58.904s GTE Am
    60. Cameron/Scott/Cioci CHE Spirit of Race Ferrari 488 GTE 4m 01.098s GTE Am
     
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    Porsche moves closer to Formula E after Monaco meeting

    Porsche is moving closer to a future in the FIA Formula E Championship following a meeting between key personnel of the German marque and series boss Alejandro Agag in Monaco.



    The senior figures that met Agag during last month’s Monaco ePrix were Porsche CEO Oliver Blume, Porsche board member Michael Steiner and Andreas Seidl, the current team principal and technical boss of the Weissach marque’s LMP1 team.

    Formula E is known to be firmly on Porsche’s future motorsport strategy radar, and an entry as soon as season five in 2018-19 could be made a reality.

    Porsche has long since been linked to a potential Formula E campaign, with Motorsport.com revealing its interest in the all-electric series and in particular its battery deal last September.

    In addition to the Monaco meeting, further Porsche staff members attended the Berlin ePrix last weekend to talk about additional parameters for an entry in the near future.

    "We received an invitation [to Monaco] from Alejandro Agag to have a look and experience Formula E for the first time,” Seidl told Motorsport.com at Le Mans.

    “We just had an invitation to an interesting series, though maybe there are not enough technical freedoms yet.”

    Like many manufacturers, Porsche has been monitoring Formula E carefully, especially since the second season in 2015/16.

    The likelihood of a direct involvement is believed to have accelerated in recent months, ever since it was confirmed that Formula E would stick to its plan to switch to one-car races in season five.

    Last year, Porsche showed significant interest in the spec battery tender, which will see the series do away with the current two-car format in races from 2018/19.

    McLaren Applied Technologies won the tender, which will be delivered in conjunction with the US-based Lucid Motors company, which specialises in automotive battery technology.

    Porsche refutes LMP1 quit reports

    Recent reports in German magazine Motorsport Aktuell have suggested that Porsche’s current LMP1 programme could be curtailed at the end of the 2017 season.

    Porsche's initial project in the FIA World Endurance Championship was for five years, with three seasons of racing covering 2014-16 after two initial test and development years.

    This was extended to cover 2017 and ‘18 in August of 2015, and Seidl insisted there was “no news” from the board when asked by Motorsport.com, saying Porsche remains “committed”.

    A final decision on the German manufacturer’s future is expected to be made public later this year.

    https://www.motorsport.com/formula-e/news/porsche-moves-closer-to-formula-e-after-monaco-meeting-918795/
     
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    #159 tomgt, Jun 15, 2017
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    OMG what a driver error Ferrari 488 Vista Jet, crashed

    Drove by slowly without any lights through Mulsanne, bit crippled.
     
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    Those cry babies from Dearborn....look where they are now
    Sandbagging. Now the or one of the quickest GT-Pro's.
    Corvette doing great as well.
     
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    #162 jgonzalesm6, Jun 15, 2017
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  13. They're gonna run electric formula cars in a class at le Mans?
     
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    Maybe I missed it, but how is it that Porsche is allowed to race a mid-engined 911?
    Best,
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    It has been announced that the honorary starter of the race tomorrow will be...Chase Carey (new F1 boss). Interesting and smart move to show unity between the two series and it will help avoid calendar clashes in future, something Todt is actively concentration on, with Agag as well; the Formula E championship manager.

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    Yes rear engine can be moved forward, but still behind the driver; not allowed for front engined aston martin to put engine behind the driver.
    That special mid-engine Porsche might never see the showrooms.
     
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    #168 BartonWorkman, Jun 16, 2017
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    It is all a very liberal interpretation of the rules.

    Porsche took last year off to concentrate on developing this new mid-engine car. As we know,
    Porsche doesn't involved in racing at any level unless they've got a decided advantage in
    the rules. And, even though this car does not follow the letter and spirit of the rules as
    all 911 engines are behind the drive line, this mid-engine 911 RSR was allowed to take part
    by the ACO and IMSA anyway.

    Radio Le Mans interviewed an engineer from Porsche yesterday (evidently the interview was
    done at Daytona back in February) and they asked him pointedly about how Porsche is allowed
    to do this.

    His reply was that the rules state that as long as the car is stock from windscreen to back
    window, as has been the case in GT classes for some time now, placement of the engine is
    "open".

    Hindbaugh then asked him if Porsche wanted they could have put the engine in the front and
    his reply was "Yes". It all seemed very much like a wink and a nod as obviously Porsche is
    exploiting a loophole in the rules. Nothing new there.

    This has actually been tried before when Alex Job Racing developed a mid-engine 911 for
    IMSA GT racing back in the 90s during the WSC days. That particular car had a decidedly
    different stance than the normal 911s, a much lower center of gravity. Despite all that though,
    I don't recall the Job Racing car having much success even with drivers like Hurley Haywood
    on the team.

    Quite frankly, the letter and spirt of the rules has also been violated by Ford for entering the
    new GT as the cars were racing well before actual production began.

    BHW
     
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    3:14.791! #7 Toyota Gazoo Racing Kamui Kobayashi just did the best time ever around Le Mans24 (video 3min 45sec)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy91BcB8pRQ

    On medium tyres!!!

    I wish they take out the first chicane, at least, down the Mulsanne (both of them really; I know they put both of them there for safety but in the past it used to be straight through).....he almost hit 340kph/200mph.
     
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    thanks for the info.
     
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    per usual!
     
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    Engine can be moved but not from rear/mid to front!
    I have read the aco/fia rule book.
    Aston could not have made a mid-engine or they needed to manufacture a prototype like the Ford or new road model with mid-engine.
    A loop hole? I don't think so. All by design / on purpose :)
     
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    #174 Nembo1777, Jun 16, 2017
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    Hi Barton,

    There was also -unless we are talking about the same car but I can't recall if Alex Job was involved- a rear middie 911 with 962 motor no less, made by Kevin Jeannette of Gunnar racing if West Palm Beach, it was nicknamed Kermit that was one of my few Porker articles, here some scans of the beast. I don't think it achieved much in the way of results or that it was actually raced much.

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    Moveable aero among 2020 LMP1 regulation changes

    Moveable or active aerodynamics will be allowed in LMP1 when new regulations come into force for the 2020 World Endurance Championship.



    The new aero rules are part of a wide-ranging package of changes that will also include the requirement for P1 cars to complete one first kilometre after each pitstop on electric power only.

    Moveable aerodynamics will be introduced as part of a cost-cutting measure that will fix the aerodynamic specification of the cars for the full season.

    This is an extension of the current rule that this year limits each manufacturer to two homologated aero packages.

    The rear wing and the internal front flaps, introduced in LMP1 in 2014, will be adjustable under the new rules.

    FIA technical director Bernard Niclot told Motorsport.com: "We consider that if we fix one bodywork for the year we can address the problem of the variety of tracks we race at within a reasonable cost with moveable aerodynamics."

    The final rules have yet to be defined, but it is likely that there will be a number of set positions.

    The requirement of the cars to do one kilometre without the use of their internal combustion engine will go hand in hand with another new rule that will allow battery charging during pitstops.

    Sir Lindsay Owen-Jones, president of the FIA Endurance Commission, explained that this reflected trends in the automotive industry.

    "It is the conviction of the manufacturers that plug-in hybrids are what they will be selling in five years' time," he said.

    "More and more cities are closing their roads to cars that are not zero emissions, so this rule gives a new dimension to our regulations."

    He insisted that the cars would travel at normal racing speed in zero-emissions mode over the one-kilometre distance.

    Niclot explained this was more relevant to the car makers than increasing the amount of hybrid energy, which had been planned for 2018 before the rules freeze announced last year.

    Owen-Jones revealed that the distance that the cars will have to cover in zero-emissions mode could be increased in future years. LMP1 cars will also have to cross the finish the race only using electrical power.

    New caps will be placed on development in the name of cost reduction. The manufacturers will not be allowed to develop all areas of the car between seasons.

    Instead their will be a system, akin to the former token arrangement employed for engines in Formula 1, that will allow a set amount of development by each manufacturer.

    The number of wind tunnel hours allowed to each manufacturer per calendar year will be reduced from the current 900 to 600.

    There will also be further limitations on testing and a drive to organise more collective sessions shared between the manufacturers.

    New safety cell rules originally scheduled to come on stream in 2018 will be part of the next cycle of LMP1 rules.

    The cockpits will be bigger to allow for more space around the driver's head and the seating position will be made more upright.

    https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/wec-lmp1-regulatons-2020-hybrid-active-aero-electric-919240/
     

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