488 GTO ?

The name GTO was coined by Enzo himself, it wasn't a name granted by the Governing Body. Thus, Ferrari can do whatever they want with the moniker. Originally it was meant as Omologato, but not any more.

 

Absolutely agree on this !

 

Of course they can build a homolgated car. Ford did with the GT

So in 70 years excluding the 599 GTO the GTO name was used twice. Since the 599 usage we are going to use it twice in less than 10 years...

GTO doesn't need to be used all the time.

The car isn't really related to the 288 other than a twin turbo v8. So we should call the california T a GTO...

Ohh I know lets call it the 488 F40! That would be even better! and then the la ferrari 250!
Or... how about the 456 Mille Miglia! the F12 Superfast! the 812 GTB/4 long nose! Hey the Califonia T has red valve covers... lets call it the testarossa too! I mean hell since Ferrari sells toilet seats lets just sell out the whole line right?

 

There is going to be a few long faces when Ferrari calls it the 488 GTO lol

 

There will be no long faces...

 

Yup agree - no long faces

 

you guessed it... my face will be long. LOL

But you know what... Ferrari will survive and so will the car.

How quickly we forget our past...

 

thanks for letting me know that the Ford GT was a homologated car........you must have done your research by reading my previous post.

 

I do accept that it is a point to be debated, however, when you look at the pic I mocked up, you can clearly see the idea of a refresh in previous models leaves virtually every panel the same shape. With the 812 not a single panel is the same shape. Also, the idea of using technology from a previous development in a subsequent new car is always happening - the 599 used Magnetorheological dampers for the first time and guess what, so does the F12.

The glasshouse is significantly different on the 812 (expensive to do and only usually done on FMC) whereas on the other cars it is exactly the same.

As for the 599, it had no 'refresh' car, so Ferrari are not following a pattern - design a car, then refresh it, is not what they are doing by default.

The 812 has completely different panels, a different engine, a completely different interior and vastly different technological spec. Hence, this should be considered a new car IMV.

Why is this important? Because I think the 812 marks an important change for Ferrari, that will affect both the V12 and V8 models; they moved away from PF so that the lines between their aerodynamic engineers and vehicle stylists would be more seamless. The 488 came before but I believe the 812 represents a significant ramping-up of Ferrari's intent to put much more aero and downforce into their designs. Combining this with technology that makes really quite large power levels manageable for the general public (such as RWS in the case of the FR layout cars), you can clearly see that Ferrari plan to not get left behind in the technology, power and performance stakes.

I would expect the 488 GTO (or whatever they name it) to be a quantum leap ahead in terms of performance, probably only about 40-60hp extra, but making that additional power count for more than it has ever done before.
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Words and words ... and endless (useless?) discussions; we need to see things guys !

Any new spy vids or pix ?

 

488 deserves this name, they called it GTB for a reason, surely will not ne GTR, GTO is perfectly suited also visually to the 488 name. It will be called with a proper name, now, instead of complaining on nuts, let's image interesting things as downforce at 200 km/h and torque, the latter will be likely limited by the Getrag DCT tolerance. 488 hss 325 kg @ 250km/h so 488 GTO can be around 400 kg @ 250 km/h.

 

correct... no one said a governing body gave Ferrari the name. Not a single person is arguing that (pretty sure Im the only person anyways... lol)

Yes Ferrari can do whatever they want with it... Just like pontiac did. That worked out well.

GTO in ferrari still means the same thing. It has been misapplied on the 599 and perhaps it will be (miss)applied again as well. It is about selling units and getting headlines especially now that its publicly traded. More focused on stock prices than Ferrari. thats ok though.. businesses need to adapt to the new world. I just wish they wouldn't do it to the lowest common denominator... but hey... im not even remotely in charge of ferrari... nor will I ever truly come up on their radar.

 

bringing back gto is better than speciale or worst of all, laferrari. but as long as they keep making great cars, who cares if they come up with lame names?

 

Most recent model names Lusso, TDF, and Superfast I'm sure we can go through the archives of retired Ferrari models to make a educated guess of what the next name they will use. I highly doubt they will use GTO because the 599 GTO was launched not to long ago.

 

Sooo much discussion about its name. Honestly, I don't care at all what it will be called. If it is really lighter than GTB version and has more track oriented functions with more hard core aero, it will be just good for me.

I will get one for sure if I like the design of it. I just hope they will get rid of the ancient side mirrors and steering wheel and put something more racing style and I won't care if its called 488 GTS, GTX, GTO or even Hyperfast

 

599 GTB - 488 GTB
The last GTB was launched at same time.

 

I wonder if it will be lighter, as like it or not, I am sure there will be a hybrid element. On the other hand with the power available with that engine married to some electrical assistance, the power delivery should be formidable.

 

It Will weigh approximately 1300 kg dry, surely not heavy hybrid, maybe mild hybrid, but in this case not much advantage is got, so I think the hybrid v8 will be the next 498 or whatever it will come after.
For the future patented toe and camber control will come to give huge advantages in bends, bye bye competitors.

 

A hybrid V8 car means a totally new car. With the current chassis I don't think there will be a hybrid 488 Speciale version. Even if they can fit the hybrid system into the car it will be just too heavy. So maybe in 4-5 years they will come up with a new car with a Hybrid V8 engine and hopefully with a carbon tub like La Ferrari

For sure this new 488 will be a Turbo only engine, around 750hp and at least 50kg lighter

 

750 is pretty lofty... as is 50kg. but... hey I hope you are right

 

A full hybrid yes, a mild hybrid no, maybe just gearbox assist. There was a rumour the car was delayed for exactly this reason.......

 

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just for you Ferrarichat

 

Congratulations: the photos from June 26 have just reached Australia !

 

It's just a plastic sheet covered 488GTB. Doesn't give any hints what the car will or might look like. All text is pure speculation/rumor

 

Isn't that allways the case Murat ?