Which F12: 2014 vs 2017?

OK have been considering moving to a V12 after owning half a dozen V8 F cars, including my current Speciale.

So I stopped by my dealer and turns out 2 are available, first a one owner 2014 and another a new 2017. Believe it or not the 2014 has barely more than delivery miles - the guy never drove it. Both high spec with MSRP's around $400K. I like the particular spec of the '17 more but again both well done.

So here's the bottom line: $290K ish for older car vs $375K ish for new '17. Which one? And yes money does matter for me.

One other thing. Last option is to wait and get a later Superfast, which my guy says he can get me towards latter part of model run. Just not convinced I like it as much aesthetically as F12.

Thoughts or advice? Thanks in advance!

 

Get an F12, just a question of which one. If you go for the 812, you'll have a long wait for a car that is, to nearly all intents and purposes, an F12. And by the time you get it, the real F12 successor - the next gen V12 - will be close at hand.

Good luck.

 

My advice is get an F12 and get on the 812 line. If you decide you don't like the 812 you can always let the dealer give the allocation to someone else. Its nice to have options. My guess is you are ever so slightly better off financially with the 2014. I think the newer one has further to fall, but I have observed that later production seems to be more desirable to the market place. I don't know what the % difference is, but the newer production usually can command a little bit of a premium. I'm just not sure the delta here would remain.

 

Really? The engine is new, the suspension is new.

 

From your message i would go for the cheaper car. The $375k car will become a $290k car within a year and 5000 miles.

 

I would go with the F12 I like . the 2017 would have a warranty which is real nice .. and to top it off you like the 2017 better.

 

Personally, I would go with the 2014 car if it is one you would like to have AND have them throw in an extended warrenty. You save 85k and put that towards an 812 when it's time.

 

I would get a 2015 car since Ferrari has had 2 years from the start of production (2013) to fix any issues. I feel 2014 is too early still for the F12 if you have a pick of the litter on this. Also you can get a 2015 for 10-15k more than a comparably equipped 2014.

 

A fairly ridiculous comment! So what are these mystery issues and especially those that warrant an $85,000 premium? Why would you also recommend a 2015 as a third option?

Advice to OP is get the one that stirs your emotion the most. Obviously its not the 812 and you are not alone.

 

The 2017 car will have the new infotainment system with brighter TFT screens, new Nav and graphics. It may not be important to you but it works very well.

You'll also find the gearbox will be smother. I have spoken to someone senior at Ferrari technical and he said that upgrades were made to F12 (and) FF over the years that improved smoothness especially at low rpm. I have driven quite a few of the different years and the difference is very noticeable.

Of course the 2017 will have further to depreciate but you will have the longer factory warranty and service pack.

Either way I don't think you'll go wrong with either car.

 

Then go for the '14! I've done 12k KM in mine with no issues (yet). I have had the FF with the upgrade TFT etc ---- No big deal and defo not worth the price diff ----

Looking forward to seeing your final choice

Cheers

 

I agree. There is always room for negotiation. Fcar dealers love to make it seem like there is no way. But when you put your money down on the table, they will want to move that 2014. Get them to throw in an extended warranty. If they disagree, tell them to make the warranty exclusive to their dealership and force them to extend it even further. These little tactics are just a few examples of what you can squeeze out of them.

Furthermore, i would try to bring that price down. Its a 2014 after all. Used F12's overseas seem to have plateaued around $250k (give or take depending on options). Maybe you can squeeze a few thousand dollars more.

If you manage to get the above, don't even bother with the 2017. Just as long as you drive the hell out of the car and enjoy.

 

In Europe the prices of used 2014 F12's range between $ 250k and $340k and this interval has a lot to do with the cars millage, condition and features. When accessing if a price is high and how much it can be brought down, it's important to know the millage, the condition and the accessories (extras) the car has. I take just as an example my F12 which is a 2014 and has extras valued in $120k. I paid an above average price for this car because it fulfilled what I wanted but I saw many other cars with more millage and little extras whose price was up to 20% less. IMO one should start by choosing the car combination that fulfills our taste and once it's selected evaluate and compare prices taking into consideration all the other aspects referred. In my case the final discount achieved was around 7% but I got aa well a two year extension warranty free of charge.

Good luck….

 

+1 - nonsense