France calls for the end of the internal combustion engine!

I thought they loved a smoke!

 

I thought they had banned forward gears during the last war ....... boom boom....... it's a joke!, I don't mean it!

 

Time for a Vichy joke too?

 

This is our future. There's no question about it.

 

What's a Vichy?

 

French Vichy government during WWII. Remember the movie Casablanca? At the end Bogart or the cop get rid of the bottled "Vichy" water.

 

only if you view the world from the perspective of an oecd country.....the rest of the world does not have the infrastructure for that to happen.

ICE machines will be around for a long time

 

True that...

but for now the USA and Europe is not the 3rd world... for the moment at least.

 

Volvo is doing away with gas only engines by 2019. https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2017/07/06/can-volvo-anxious-to-mitigate-diesel-impact-rely-on-electric-option/#587a025442eb

 

What has this to do with F1 - aren't the implications wider (if it happens) ?

 

Here's the correct link: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/business/energy-environment/france-cars-ban-gas-diesel.html

 

Infrastructure follows, it does not lead. Think back to the days of the first ICE cars ... very few petrol stations but now they are everywhere.
Pete

 

2040 in France means >2050 in the sane World...at that time I'll probably be more interested in enticing some young female aid into giving me a bath in the nursing home...and telling her lies about "how big it used to be."

 

go to the pampas, go to dakar, go to mianmar, hell go to new mexico with your tesla and take some flares with you for when you run out of juice, and then tell us when the infrastructure catches up with you.

 

thats the ticket !!

 

The French still think frogs and slugs are culinary delights - I wouldn't be too sure the world will agree with a nation that does that.... disgusting habits, and im told their ladies don't shave their armpits

 

Don't worry, we have many, many, more about the Brits in return, that are much worse than that. We do not eat slugs, only snails; and frogs are indeed very nice to eat, and taste somewhat like chicken. These are not considered culinary delights, by the way. Only the day to day staple of some regions were people had nothing else to eat in the ancient times; the habit of eating frogs came from the regions of swamps, notably "les dombes".

Rgds

 

The city was known for its springs since the antiquity: being at the base of the mountains of the "Massif Central", it receive very pure mountain water.
The Romans, in 52 before J.C, were the first to discover that some of these springs had thermal quality and made the place popular as a destination for therapeutic baths, spas...

Along the centuries, the city was renowned for its water (= "eau de Vichy") and its therapeutic baths. It became really famous as a destination for the aristocracy, gentry, etc...at the begining of the XXth century. Which explains that many hotels were constructed in the city for the curists: the city had the second-largest room capacity in France.

In 1940, it was this large hotel capacity, and the fact that it was only four and a half hours from Paris by train that justified that this small country town was choosen as the capital for the remaining french state.

"Vichy" then became synonymous with collaboration, something that is still today a difficult heritage for that city.

Rgds

 

Isn't NY Times fake news?

 

Well, it has been officially announced yesterday by the "Ministre de l'écologie et du développement durable", so that's the intention. Whether it will actually be achieved is another matter, of course.
(This thread shouldn't be in "Formula One", by the way...)

Rgds

 

Yep, it will be painful at first no doubt but nobody will invest unless they believe they can make money. Once electric cars are sold/appear in those countries some will see a need and some form of charging stations will be created ... maybe driven by diesel generators

Go back 100, or less, years and the same can be said for the ICE vehicles. The car came first and then somebody decided that they could make money supplying fuel ... and yep the first petrol stations were crude things compared to the efficient things we use and expect nowadays.

BTW: Most of those places you mentioned you will need flares when your ICE car runs out of petrol too ... of course you can carry fuel cans, but you can carry extra batteries too.
Pete

 

There is one bonus ...

Instead of crap like Volvos and Toyotas wasting our petrol, the people that buy those boring things will buy electric cars, leaving more petrol for us to use
Pete

 

So less demand for petrol means lower prices,yes please.