The Ferrari SUV Thread

I agree with you 100%, maserati specifically

 

Absolutely. Killing the golden goose. Let Ferrari Design the things and stick the other silly badges on them. It went well for Maser.

 

Well, SUVs originated from the combination of the station wagon and truck, both of which existed in Enzo's time, and he never built a 275GTCrewCab or 166 Mille Famigliare.

 

It doesn't matter what Enzo would do anymore - SM and John Elkann run the show

 

Lambo made an SUV. A pretty awesome one at that.

Did it kill Lambo?

Which is worse? Ferrari making an SUV or Ferrari going with Turbo's and hybrids?

IMO, its the second one.

 

I think a lot of owners will. I've loved Porsche since the mid 1980's and have purchased a couple of them over the years.

My love for Porsche died in 2003.

IMHO

 

Indeed it doesn't. I was simply indulging TheMayor's contention.

Both are equally worse than the alternative and past practice of neither.

 

But... how does this hurt YOU?

Did a Porsche SUV hurt Porsche? Quite the opposite happened in fact.

Fchat hypocrites: "Ferrari should never make an SUV. Hey... do you want to go to lunch in my Cayenne?"


If Ferrari makes a rip snoring V12 650 HP awesome SUV, why is that so bad? Enzo made THIS --
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I'm confused... are you looking for an argument?

Back to the topic of extrapolating your initial contention on Enzo and the SUV... had trucks and station wagons existed when Enzo roamed the earth, he would've produced, marketed and sold them? Because he didn't.

 

No, I'm making a point. Most who object to "Ferrari" making an SUV have no problem with others doing it at all.

What sense does that make?

I personally hope they never make one. But it's their right to make one if they think they can make bucks off it. And I hope if they do it's something really awesome.

Enzo never gave a rat's bottom what "enthusiasts" wanted him to do. He just made cars that he thought he could sell.

So, why is that any different today? And why didn't it hurt Porsche if its such a horrible idea. In fact, the Porsche line up over the years is FAR more towards making sports cars than the many GT's Ferrari made in his life.

 

Turbo's and hybrids are engineering evolutions that Ferrari use to enhance the performance of their cars and help ensure that they meet ever more restrictive legislation.

Ferrari do not use turbo and hybrid technology purely because it's the trendy thing to do, they're not simply fashion statements for the company, Ferrari use them to maximise the performance of the cars, which is in keeping with the ethos that Enzo Ferrari set out for his cars from the very start.

Enzo Ferrari himself oversaw two of the greatest Ferrari's ever made, the 288 GTO and the F40, both with turbo engines, and had no problem with it because at that time, it was the ideal way to get the required performance required for the least outlay.

Complaining about Ferrari using turbo and hybrid technology in this day and age is a bit like complaining that Ferrari should never have gone to disc brakes back in the day - Like it or not, turbo's and hybrid technology are the future for the internal combustion engine!

SUV's on the other hand, these days are basically fashion statements.

They are compromised vehicles that are not in keeping with Enzo Ferrari's ethos for his company.

TBH, if you think SUV's are more in keeping with what Ferrari are about than hybrid/turbo technology is, then I have to conclude that you don't really understand what Enzo Ferrari's vision for his company was!

 

Really?

From all of the books on Enzo Ferrari that I've ever read, Ferrari put far more importance on making cars for the "enthusiasts" who wanted an extremely capable fast car that they could push to the limit, rather than just churning out rubbish that would be easy to sell.

The people he didn't really care for were the ones who bought his cars, not to drive fast and enjoy as he intended, but to drive slowly to pose in and ensure they were seen, and that is exactly what the modern SUV is about - It's a fashion statement!

One of the last projects that Enzo Ferrari ever oversaw was the F40 - So according to you, Enzo Ferrari didn't give a s:censored:t if it was a good car or not, or if it was what "enthusiasts" wanted, he just thought it would sell? I can't see that one!

If Enzo Ferrari didn't care about the "enthusiasts", then he would have made his cars a damned sight easier to drive and master! - Instead, the vast majority of Ferrari's need a decent amount of driver talent to get the best out of them.

And the people Enzo Ferrari respected the most? - Those who bought his cars and then went racing in them!

 

Like it or not eventually it's going to happen, it's just a matter of time until we see working prototype.

Personally I'd like to see Ferrari take on the challenge.

 

1) Don't make me LAUGH about Ferrari not being a "fashion statement". Most people cruise around their neighborhoods with them driving 1000 miles a year, only to sell them to the next guy so they can get another and stick it in their garage. If not a fashion statement, it's surely a status symbol.

2) This SUV from Lambo was a fashion statement? IMO, it was pretty awesome and a game changer. WAY ahead of the curve.


I am not saying they should build one. I think it would be a pretty bad idea. But why should they care what we think? It's free enterprise. Porsche made one and it was their best selling car. Do people like Porsche less now because of it?

I dare anyone here to tell us they would not want to buy another new Ferrari again if Ferrari made an SUV. Really folks?
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So will my wife, in order to buy one! [emoji6] Purists may scoff, but I think this will sell like proverbial hot cakes!
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That's about the only thing my wife would trade her Ferrari SUV in for! [emoji3]
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It certainly did not hurt their bottom line but hurt their brand which went from being what it was "pre boxster", to simply being a premium brand.

 

im with you Bob.

 

I'm sorry to say this but SUV's bring more income which in turn helps the company's
overall vehicle development efforts Thus benefiting everyone - IMO

 

This might be true as all other manufacturers are doing SUV's already. But I really hope F wouldn't do it though. Might soften the brand image and cause some negative impacts on car values even.

If some of you like for example Porsche's SUV-models then fine, but er... let's just say they are not for many car enthusiasts I know.

 

This.
Buy what you like irregardless of the label.


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I am in,
If it looks good,
And it drives good,
Its good! I want one!
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Ferraris downmarket brand is Maserati. I hate masers so much. But Ferrari, like Lambo, will make it a turbo v6 for emissions purposes. They'll make them cheap enough so the flat brim, vape crowd can lease them and boost their EPA profile with sheer numbers. Expect it to be a parts bin car with a badge for sub 160k.

Still prefer my X6M

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I agree with you 100%

 

Ill bet a large percentage of the guys on here who are appalled and swear they'd sell their cars have Cayennes.

Just sayin'