The Official Ferrari 812 SUPERFAST pictures thread

All true, except when the plaque just says "extracampionario" for the color without actually telling the name or when the list of details is just too long and not every option is listed.

Imagine going to show your 812 SF at the Pebble Beach Concours in 50 years and trying to convince the judges about some options.........

Marcel Massini

 

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@MalibuGuy, you said more artfully and better what I would have said as this is a better way than relying on people holding on to the window sticker and also often the window sticker has the famous "Other Options"... and no one know's what in there.

@of2worlds, Touché!

@Marcel Massini, they sometimes will write that on the Plaque? I have yet to see it, but I am nearly certain you have seen more of these than I! I hope this is not the case, as I agree with MalibuGuy that this is a good way of clearing up confusion.

 

Whilst I am as interested as the next man regarding the subtle nuances of grey does anyone know the tyre options for the 812 (see earlier question) ?
Probably the option that has most impact on how the thing drives after all !

 

There are two choices for street driving which Ferrari has shown for 812

Michelin Pilot Sports 4S

Pirelli P Zero 4

I was just at the Pirelli showroom yesterday. The owner had a lot of nice things to say about the new P Zero 4. He had done a track day with a 458 in Portugal and said that the tires performed significantly better than the old tire..

 

Marcel- Ferrari dealers can print both a build sheet (Assembly Number included) and an option sheet (no AN) for Ferraris quite a ways back. Both should contain all the options, unlike the US Monroney, which is truncated.

Of course, you already knew that.

 

Thanks.
I know Ferrari made a big thing about journalists testing the car with "normal" road tyres but I am hoping Pirelli P Zero Corsas and/or Michelin Pilot Cup 2s (which I love on my Speciale) will also be options.

 

I can only give you a guess- and my guess- based on past models- is they won't offer MPC2 for the 812. Pirelli does offer their Trofeo R for the regular 458 so its possible they might offer such a tire for the 812. But I don't see it ever offered for the F12. I would caution that such tires are really not meant for anything besides dry and warm conditions. Frankly what they can do with these P-Zeros and MPS4S is amazing- really fantastic dry weather performance and pretty good wet and even slightly cool weather performance as well. 15-20 years ago such performance would be almost impossible to imagine. Such is the pace of tire technology.

 

Thanks.
The Trofeo R is more track biased than the P Zero Corsa I think.
My understanding is that the P Zero Corsa is Pirelli's equivalent to the Michelin Pilot Sport 2 and that it is the standard tyre on the F12 Tdf.
Happy to be corrected.

 

The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S is a fantastic tire with better braking, handling and tread wear than the old super sport 2, which were huge improvement over the Super Sport (1).

I believe that the Michelin Sport 2 s had better treadwear compared to the prior gen P zero.

But now we have a different shoot out: MPS4S vs PZCorsa4!

Very cool.

Yes this kind of performance from a street tire with good treadlife is truly remarkable. The gap between track tire and street is narrowing!

The P tire has more or wider/deeper grooves to combat aqua-planing. And they have added a new noise reduction layer. Also of note, is the P has some kind of interesting anti-puncture technology which is different from run flat. If this is truly effective, given the horrible state of the roads in Los Angeles, I would be very pleased.

 

I think you are right about the Trofeo, I think that is more in line with the Cup tire. I am curious about that tire on my 458 Italia. When I wear out my MPSS I will enquire, as my car only sees dry, warm weather use.

We are the beneficiaries from all the competition in this space. I am really excited to try the new MPS4S.

 

The P Zero 4 is a fantastic tyre. It's close to dry traction to the old Corsa, which in turn is close to the old Trofeo, which in turn is close to the old Trofeo R. Of course all the new versions of these tyres got significantly better as well.

 

This is the first picture of the 812 that I actually likes. So much I could think of ordering one...

 

Bit late now, unless Sweden different to US and UK

 

Love this color Thanks for posting
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It's all over the place. Looks like it comes 'pre-crashed'.

 

LOL. Must say, the front is not bad, but everything behind the front clip is a mess.

Check the near horizontal surface running back from the the bottom of the front fender vent, it's flat, it's rounded, convex, vertical - you name it. Check how unstable the reflections are. Very poor surface development.

The back is another story altogether.

 

Yet it's a sell out....major success....first time in Ferrari's history that a regular run production car has been more or less totally 'pre-sold' before launch. So does that not make the design a win? Looks like mission accomplished to me......

Pointless to criticise at this point now.......

 

I still prefer the pre-crashed look of the 812 to the pre-melted down rear bumper of the F12.

I even can see a trend: factory pre-wasted car, 5,000$ over MSRP.

 

Agreed, but doesn't mean i have to like it and i dont, whatever that's worth.

Probably more a success due to its mechanicals (last of the unassisted V12s?) than the styling. Don't think they can afford to keep making shapes like this if not backed up by limited production, last-of-the-breed hype. In other words, the new GT, for example.

 

To me its like art - you either like it or don't. It either "gets you" or doesn't. I really it.

The 720S McLaren to me is the ultimate "mess" in terms of design yet others love it. Thats what makes humankind interesting

 

I hate this car.
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