2017 FORMULA 1 ROLEX BRITISH GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

What is really strange to me is the fact that you look at the stats and say these are facts but at the same time you rated Nico as "whatever was the word of the moment" although he is ranking in front of Sir Stirling Moss in the stats...you can not have it both ways.

 

Disaster for Ferrari and absolute disappointment. The Mercedes EQ8+ must be pushing over 1075 hp if the results are like that. Ferrari development is going to need step up hugely leap if they're gonna crawl up the results. Let alone try to beat Mercedes. Hoenstly while I had low expections with the results lately. I had hopped they would have a good results here instead a fail comes. I absolutely think Ferrari need to rethink their approach this season. Hoenstly at this point developing the 2018 car would be idea way if they're gonna beat Mercedes next year. In the mean time their development needs a huge overhaul and they need a new engine that frocuses on top end better. The new engine just isn't enough now. The results are not acceptable at all.

 

Two different discussions.

Stats are the measure of rating the drivers. Rosberg won a title and Moss didn't. So? He is still a one time wonder.

Ability to attract fans/audiences/media is about the marketing/$ aspect of the sport. Nico is about as interesting as a pond of stagnant water whereas Lewis is a juggernaut and a marketing's manager dream come true.

 

Predictable win for LH. Smooth issue free.

Bottas made a nice effort to get to the podium. Kimi probably would have just taken P2 with Bottas close.

Overall Ferrari just didnt have the outright pace at all.

Drive of the day for Ricci. Nice recovery.

A tight title battle now....

 

It will be interesting to see how that battle plays out. He definitely had the better of Hamilton in Russia and Monaco...Lewis was struggling to get his car together while Bottas seemed to be quite opportunistic.

Austria is a bit of a question mark due to the grid penalty. Bottas did out-qualify Hamilton, but the Haas breakdown also negated Hamilton's run for pole.

Baku was a fluke...Hamilton should have won if not for the loose headrest.

When both are "on", Hamilton has the advantage. Bottas has been great at seizing opportunities though so unless everything is perfect the rest of the season, he should remain in contention for the WDC.

 

Tight is good. In more ways than one. (that is, let's say, no leaks with tight seals, maintain good suspension geometry with a tight chassis and joints...stuff like that... )

 

Moss could of been a 4 time champion. The problem was he was a gentleman who rather have "Fairplay" in racing rather than going tough and deep into indeed he could of won more resulting in titles if he didn't try to help his opponents like a polite person he is.

 

The Englanders have a habit of breaking away from stuff, even to this day.

Typical islander mentality......

 

The last two laps were really unfortunate for Ferrari. This track does not favor Ferrari's swb like others (Austria, Hungary, etc) so damage limitation was important here. Those two tire delaminations at that point in the race just really punished the team. I was going to post earlier that I hoped that early pit wouldn't come back to haunt Seb (didn't want to give him bad Karma) but it did. I was more surprised at Kimi's tire falling apart because he pitted with everyone else.

I agree with those who think the car set-up probably put too much stress on those front left tires. Hopefully they can bounce back in two weeks at the Hungaroring.

 

The Hungaroring should favour Ferrari's SWB right ?

 

Tight is not really good when frankly that is results on a high speed track like this. Most tracks are high speed. If this is indication of what's to come. Tight would fade instead trashing comes. Honestly the only way ferrari would win is if they an explosive development after Hungary when they're have their "holiday break". If they cannot improve from then on Ferrari will lose both WDC AND WCC. They have no chance of winning if that happens.

 

Yes, Monaco without the houses

 

The WCC seems lost already. WDC is the one to watch, many scenarios possible

 

Yes, we mostly break away from crumbling institutions ...

 

I just don't think you quite caught my drift.

(And I'm not referring to the exit of a corner.... )

 

Yes...I'm expecting a strong bounce-back performance after three lost weekends (Baku, Austria (that track favored Ferrari also) and Britain.

The championship isn't over because of a circuit that didn't favor the Scuderia's layout. However, they can't afford to let opportunities slip away any longer.

 

This wdc and season is over. Back to the normal bull**** with merc half a second faster than anyone. F1 is so trash now

 

+1....that horse can't be put back into the barn, especially with Bottas' consistently good drives.

I think WDC is still very much wide open. I think the next four races (Hungary, Spa, Suzuka, Singapore) are split as Ferrari/Mercedes advantaged circuits so as long as Ferrari can find some development on the car Seb should stay in this thing.

That said, I'd definitely tip towards Hamilton for the WDC winner. Before Canada, I thought it was Seb's to lose...Ferrari didn't place a foot wrong early on. Of course, the "incident" in Baku looms large now as that was Seb's race to lose and hot-headedness cost him.

It shows how quickly things can shift during the F1 season

 

Lol no. Its over.

 

Its over now. Merc will win the WCC and Hamilton the WDC.

Ferrari cannot compete.

Why do I say that? Bottas started 8th and still beat both Ferrari's pretty easily

 

Yep. Yipee.

 

Yes. Either way. How fast people forget years like 84, 94, 99, 07.

 

Wrong. Ferrari were looking to place well enough on a track that favours Merc until both cars had tire issues. Its not over yet. Not even close.

 

True but he wouldn't have caught Raikonnen without the tire issue - and Vettel was struggling with the tires I think before it went entirely.

 

So we excuse that Ferrari had tire issues and neither Mercs did?

Wow... the Red cloud seems pretty thick today.