2017 FORMULA 1 ROLEX BRITISH GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

+1 not a man pursuing the 'spotlight' but a life. One of the smarter one's to walk the paddock in my opinion.

 

Some people just keep their feet firmly on the ground.

 

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he sure is.....different! O_O
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Different, that's for sure, but the dude keeps winning ...

 

Yeh,can't imagine Lewis suddenly quitting then disappearing off into obscurity at some Uni or whatever...he is still motivated and hungry for more success.

 

...thanks to the Mercedes...
Because if braids alone would be the key to the success I guess Seb, Max and Fernando would wear them as well...

 

Yeah...I can´t imagine Lewis visiting an Uni either

 

Lol unreal

 

Hi Pete
No!! when Max spank Mosley with his grey area rule book, deciding race results over the board room table was in charge, it nearly stopped me watching F1, remember all the threats made about a breakaway series, because of it and his rulings.

He made it personal, and there was no absolutely no love lost between him and Ron Dennis, and I suppose we can only guess and scratch the surface of what really went on.

 

Well love him or loath him, he is for sure the most talked about driver, some can't even make a post without mentioning him, under some presumably daft pseudonym .
It Makes true the saying, There is no such thing as bad press.

 

The FIA is not always right today either....not to defend Seb overacting but I guess Lewis and Nico had more "dangerous driving" in the last three years and the stewards and the FIA did nothing because it was a team intern duel. This is also why I do not understand that those supporting Lewis said he (Lewis) would have been punished much harder than Seb because I do not see a historical reason that indicates this would be the case.

And look at Schumacher: after "ramming" Jacques he was punished at least partly for something Prost and Senna did years earlier...the stewards and the FIA are HUMANS, not the burning bush.

 

IMO as far it seems to me, it's as if Todt has set out with a more hands off approach at rule making, the rules need to be transparent, I'll give him the nod for seemingly trying to do that, he of course has green issues that he wants addressing.

But on the whole it is slightly better governed than it was IMO, there will be no pleasing everyone though.

 

No, the amazing thiong is that the year before THE FIA decided that all teams would have the same ECU, and they chose the one from a team that was found guilty of industrial espionage!!! amazing isn't it!! I remenber Briatore going crazy when they first tested the ECU in the Renault, claiming it was utter crap, Ferrari also had problems with it, and in fact it overheated in australia causing both cars to retire (and if you think by how much Massa lost,..here is another reason for it)

 

yes, there was more, like the fact that the fuel didn't enter his car in canada, making him do a second pit stop and drping to 17Th place, from were he did a brlinat recovery to 5º, a race he would easily win without that, or germany when they forgot to remove the tape from the front air ducts, causing his brakes to start failing, making him lose the victory to hamilton and second place to piquet..and so may other litle things...but the fact remains, a race that was cheated was alowed to decide teh championsip, it's as simple as that.

 

dont forget Hungary 2008. Had the race won with a brilliant drive then lost the engine with like 5 laps to go. Hamilton's 2008 was far more sloppy than Massa, IMO

 

And I repeat that it's the pit incident in Singapore that did cost Massa the title.

Had he be released safely, he would have won.

It is really as simple as that!

No point blaming something else...

 

And i repeat that that race was a farse, it was rigged, so it should have been discarded...it´s really as simple as that!

 

Well, have it your way.

Nobody at the time knew that Piquet Jr accident had been stage-managed to suit Alonso.

There was no protest, no enquiry, nothing. I looked at reports, nobody protested the results.

Therefore the results of the race were not contested, and the championship followed its course.

When the plot was uncovered, one year later, it was far to late to amend the records, take away the title and give to someone else.

This is very rarely done; never in F1 to my knowledge.

Therefore the records stand and Hamilton is 2008 WDC. End of story.

But I maintain that it's a series of cock-ups by Massa and Ferrari during the season that cost them the title; not just one incident, as you pretend.

 

one is all that takes....i don't care for the rest, this was was cheating, so it's the one that counts...if the was for the rest of the season Massa would be World champion.

 

"could have", "would have " don't count much in the official results.

There are always people not happy with the outcome.

I have NEVER heard either Massa or Ferrari protest the results of the Singapore GP, nor ask the FIA to cancel the race, or not to take it into account, EVEN a year later when the plot was uncovered after Nelson Piquet Jr's allegation.

Massa never complains about it, and Ferrari never mentions it. I suppose it's because they know they would be on very thin ice!

 

No, it's because that's the way Ferrari operates, i remenber when Senna rammed Prost at Suzuka, nobody at Ferrari tried to do something about it, they just said, "if this is the way things are going to be decided, will have to think very well our involvement in the spror because we won't spend millions in it to watch this sort of things"...and that was it.

Felipe Massa was 'robbed' of F1 world title by Nelson Piquet Jnr Singapore crash - Telegraph

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/massa-upset-about-singapore-2008/

 

If Ferrari doesn't object, why are you so incensed by it?

I tend to agree that stirring up the **** one year later, and have the championship taken away from someone who's completely innocent, to give it to a "moral" winner, wouldn't look good for the sport.

If Alonso had won the championship by Renault cheating, that may be a different matter, but even then, allegedly he was not aware of the plot. He only won a GP, where Ferrari **** up its refuelling.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010KyIQjkTk

 

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