Hi All! Have anyone have information on the 458 brake failure? I have this happen to me twice. I was driving on a mountain road, about 1 hr into spirited driving the brake just failed. I stepped on the brake and nothing happen. I had to use engine braking and stepped really hard in the brake to slow it down. I lost all the confidence in the car after that. Any one know what the issue is and how to fix it? I drove slowly for 10 minutes then the brake came back normal. Thanks!
I think that your problem needs to be sorted out with a mechanical inspection. I wouldn't just assume that this is normal. Get things sorted out.something is wrong.
lets see, first post, not subscribed, and brakes are failing, have driven my 458 pretty hard at times, and never had any kind of brake problem. seems we have a few people coming on here with all kinds of strange problems then never appearing again. Have never had anyone talk about brake failure, specially just running hard on public roads. like to see his car????
Shoot me the last 6 of your VIN in a private message, let me see what I can bring up for you. Though, to answer your question, you should take it to a qualified Ferrari technician for inspection immediately. This does not occur often enough for the internet to diagnose for you < wink > Please be careful! S
Thanks for all the advice. I'm scheduling service and inspection with Ferrari dealership. Will what they can find. I found a few links on similar issues when I google it but don't know how real they are. I have a black 2011 with 8k miles on it. Thanks!
Do a forum check. I ran into same problem. Resolved after full bleed and fluid top up and fixing a caliper issue. Entropy is the brake expert. Sent from my SM-G9350 using Tapatalk
To me this sounds like the brake booster or master cylinder problem. This is a fixable problem. IMO, if this happened to me twice I'd be towing it ASAP to the repair shop.
My friend had same thing going into an intersection in black 458. Narrowly avoided a massive accident by swerving all over the intersection. Brake pedal was rock hard then later brakes worked fine again? Ferrari said nothing wrong with the brakes. He did not accept their verdict. His life (and others) were nearly ended that day so he refused to drive it ever again. Sold car back to F and bought a McLaren. There are several reports of 458's with brake problems, including now that 488 in Portugal. Never heard of any such problems with 360 or 430, only 458?? Am in the market for a 458 but this issue is of real concern to me. If you have any more news on the outcome of your brake problem please let us know.
It was likely to be brake fluid boiling after spirited acceleration and braking - brake fluid is hygroscopic and will absorb water over time which reduces boiling point - letting the brakes cool down allows the compressible vapor to condense again and return to a non compressible fluid - thats why changing the brake fluid is a prerequisite at the 1 or2 year service period or before any track use. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Interesting theory. CCBs don't fade hardly at all, so I can see a scenario where the brakes get hot enough to boil fluid that's been sitting too long or had absorbed water, yet the driver can't feel it coming because there is no fade leading up to it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Wasn't there an Italia intermittent brake failure problem noted a few years ago. It was only during certain slow speed turns as I recall. Seemed to be a big deal at the time and then it has been forgotten with no comments about the issue since then?
I had a break failure on Hockenheim Circuit in 2016 after 10 laps hard driving. After 100 mtrs, brakes were full back again every new round. At every same hairpin, the brakes went down again for 8 more rounds. After ending the trackday, no more problems occurred, also not on the way back to my country and until now no problem... So no boiling fluids at all, that was ruled out. At the track I stayed in race modus... Mechanics noted that this had happenend in 458 Chalenges also, had to put manettino in ESC OFF ... So it may also be an ECU problem ... Image Unavailable, Please Login
Right to the floor ... Between #4 and #6 I was doing over 220 kms/hr speed ... After 10th lap, every time at #6 the hairpin 2-3 x braking and then ... to the floor ... But after turning and following towards #7 -100 mtrs- it was O.K. again ... So ... absolutely not boiling brakefluid ... Image Unavailable, Please Login
That doesn't inspire much confidence in buying a 458 if you can't stop the thing! Enough of these issues may have an impact on prices..... I seem to recall another thread on here recently where someone was looking for Information on 458 break failure. Maybe worth a search for that. Regards Michael Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Something similar happened to a 458 at one of our track days; the pedal would get particularly long at the end of the long straight and then would come back again during the lap. The club's resident Ferrari specialist who was on the spot said that it was overheating brake fluids after examining the car. You need racing fluids for such use, but they are bad for every day use and corrupt the circuit.
This happened recently. his brakes failed. He had them inspected the day before. it is currently under investigation. https://www.instagram.com/p/BWDW4XaBbv4/?taken-by=mazer327
Is this specific to the 458 and it's break set up or more about how it's being driven? Don't tend to hear of the issues with other models? Regards Michael Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
It definitively was NOT overheating fluids in my case ... it then would not recover within 100 mtrs said our mechanics.
I just bought a 458 and when I looked at the maintenance records it had a nite on previous owner stated the brakes went to the floor. When I called the Ferrari dealer that did the service he mentioned to me that the brakes fluid needs to be changed and brakes bleed every 2 years as the fluid gets bad ( not the technical term). Maybe you just need a brake service Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
The brake booster is way up front and the vacuum line needs to run all the way from the engine. The vacuum is tapped from the right side manifold plenum where it proceeds thru a one way check valve and several snap connects before ending at the brake booster. This vacuum circuit needs to be checked for leaks and check valve failure. However, there's another vacuum circuit which works in parallel to generate and maintain vacuum to the booster when engine vacuum isn't enough. It uses the venturi principle to "hop up" the vacuum signal using a "jet pump" device. As the picture shows, the device has three connections; to booster, to clean outside air, to intake manifold. These little jet pumps devices also have check valves and other pieces that can fail. This circuit needs to be checked as well. Note: the jet pump (bad name) is mounted in front of the left side intake manifold plenum. Ferrari doesn't sell the valve separately but it's a common part and can be found pretty easy and cheap. Image Unavailable, Please Login