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Why is my 360 Modena so fast ?

Discussion in '360/430' started by Philly, Jul 25, 2017.

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  1. Philly

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    So I've owned lots of fast cars older and newer ... I get my 02 360 Modena f1 all stock 10k miles ... I drive it around a bit and I'm really pleased with its driving characteristics and just how fast it is ... But I keep reading about how much faster f430s and 458s and so many cars are ... And sure enough I go to Ferrari 0-60 times site which includes 1/4 mile times too often and here's the data 02 360 Modena f1 3.7 0-60 11.9 1/4 mile , 2012 458 spider 3.3 0-60 11.3 1/4 mile ( faster, but with a decade of tech and sterilization), 2007 599 3.3 0-60 11.1 1/4 mile, and that's a front engine v12 , 2013 California 3.6 0-60 12.0 1/4 mile, 92 F40 3.7 0-60 11.7 1/4 mile , 09 F430 4.1 0-60 12.5 1/4 mile ... Come on guys - the 360 is a beautiful balanced fast car - faster than most iterations of the f430 - an asshair away from the hallowed F40 - and as fast and way more fun than the Cali !!
     
  2. Kevin Rev'n

    Kevin Rev'n Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes you are correct. The balance is there in spades and the available power is perfectly matched to my senses. I could not imagine more power being better for what my brain is able to process. FTW!
     
  3. billy.gif

    billy.gif Formula Junior

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    Sorry but a stock 360 Modena will not hit 60mph in 3,7sec. Nor it does 1/4 mile in 11,9sec.

    For example factory states 1/4 mile around 12,6-12,8 sec depending the source. One simply cant go almost 1 sec faster in a quarter mile... Also wildy regarded truth is that 0-62mph (100kph) is 4,5 sec. No way can stock one hit 60mph in 3,7.
     
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  4. Mickster

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    This is also the data I have at hand for the Modena.
    The CS is supposed to be faster than the Modena though... At least when racing on a track. However, Rob Feretti have made an interesting comparison (you can find it on Youtube), between a Modena and 2 different CS cars.

    The CS's didn't pull away...
     
  5. Mickster

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  6. Themaven

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    For those interested in zero to 60, Car & Driver tested the cars as follows:

    360 Modena: 0-60 in 4.5 seconds
    F40: 0-60 in 4.2 seconds
    F430: 0-60 in 3.5 seconds

    Three point five is a very significant difference over four point five, if this matters. Four point five was good for the 360's time, but nothing outstanding. The original Kompressor SL55 AMG was around the same, and 996 Turbo of the time faster, albeit the Porsche's time skewed by 4WD traction.

    Link here:

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  7. HH11

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    3.7 in a stock 360 is a pipe dream.

    It is not faster than any version of a 430, never mind most of them.

    Not sure where those numbers are from, but almost every single one of them is incorrect.
     
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  8. vrsurgeon

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    I don't buy the 3.7 0-60. Maybe down a steep hill with a thunderstorm gale to the rear.. but 4ish is more reasonable.

    Understand its the driver, the accessories on the car, the tune of the engine, etc. I don't personally think most Ferrari drivers are particularly good at DRIVING their cars. Sure they like to drive slow and look good in them, but 90% that I know don't track them and drive like grandma's in the corners. For a car like the 360 and 430 that has that nervous behavior at the limit, its important to know the car.

    For this, these times are BS talking points for Cars and Coffee. Talk about how fast the car is, smile, feel good, and then drive 50 MPH back home. No real world correlation.
     
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  9. I'm 360 Canuck

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    #9 I'm 360 Canuck, Jul 26, 2017
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    Faster than an f430? No.

    It's nicely balanced for the street however.
    I don't wish it had more horsepower....although at times I wish it has more torque.

    I don't pay much attention to the numbers...other than for relative purposes. If I did, I'd probably always end up in a vette. There's so few opportunities in my life to open up a car the way they do in reviews, and I don't claim to be the skills of a test /racedriver.

    But if it "feels" fast to you, that's great. Enjoy it, safely and often!
     
  10. 24000rpm

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    tires, like in formula one racing, are the defining factor in any drag racing or circuit racing numbers. If there's no tire temp, type, etc given, no facts (read: numbers) are useful.
     
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  11. Need4Spd

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    430s are faster. They have an edge of about 80 HP. But it is fun reeling in some of them on the track with my stick-shifted 360! 0-60 times are not that relevant except as a relativity gauge (and a source showing 360s faster than 430s has to be incorrect). You shouldn't be buying a 360 (or most Ferraris) for drag racing. Many other cars that cost less can do better in that aspect. Balance and fun to drive, yes!


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  12. 3POINT8

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    360 is a nice care but these stats are just wrong. believe them though if they make your driving experience better!
     
  13. cgfen

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    LOL
    02 360 Modena f1 3.7 0-60 11.9 1/4 mile????????????
    NO WAY

    but you are correct
    the 360 is a beautiful balanced <not so> fast car
     
  14. BAD430BENZ

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    You should try the twin turbo version !
     
  15. f355spider

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    #15 f355spider, Jul 26, 2017
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    Interesting, has anyone else done a roll on acceleration test of a 360 versus a 360CS?
    This seems like an anomaly...it doesn't make sense
     
  16. Philly

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    Site named: 0-60 times says 360 3.7, site named 0-60 specs says 3.8 ... Maybe they're both really wrong - not sure why they would rate 360 faster and f430 slower ... If they were wrong you'd think they would be wrong in the same direction ...
     
  17. Need4Spd

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    Maybe they used a slower watch...


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  18. Shinigami

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    And a fair amount of additional torque too.

    My 2005 SLK 55 AMG was quoted 4.9 by Mercedes if I recall, and some tests showed it did as low as 4.2 (ideal conditions, downhill with a gale wind like Surgeon said :) ? ).

    I can feel my 360 is faster, not by a lot, and of course I need to shift which makes me probably slower at gear changes than the (rather ancient) automatic of my Benz.

    Still, I also don't see the 360 a sub 4 second car in that respect. I have seen some tests pin it in the low 4's with the official figures being 4.5 *shrug*
     
  19. Mickster

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    Low 4's would probably be the CS - right? The power to weight ratio is better on the CS which could explain better result.

    But then again; see the Rob Ferretti clip I linked to. A std Modena pulls away from 2 different CS's.
     
  20. Themaven

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    Why would anyone believe random websites which trawl the internet for stats? That's like using Tinder to hire an accountant. Where do they get their numbers from? The people who actually establish these times are either manufacturers (limited credibility) or car magazines/shows, using numbers for different models at different times in different conditions, with drivers of different skill, on different surfaces.

    If you bunch them all together, they are as reliable as an opinion poll.

    Or maybe we should just believe any random guy who sets up a website and steals content from others?
     
  21. cfensty

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    My 360 F1 seems to take 3.7 seconds just to get off the line.


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  22. MufflerMan

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    Lol 3.7 to get off the line!

    This is ridiculous. No 360 on the planet is in the 3's, outside of a few mutant boosted cars.

    The real discussion should be how a car feels to you, not its stats. This isn't a fantasy football league. You don't get further anywhere by stating incorrect facts about your cars performance.

    The fact is a 360 is a phenomenal car to drive, and they are fast in their own right, but not 430 or 458 fast.
     
  23. Dewinator

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    I bet the accountant from Tinder would be more fun. The obsession with 1/4 mile and ring times and everything is ruining sports cars anyway.
     
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  24. ferralc

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    The 360 FEELS very fast, I had an Audi which did 4.2s and never felt that quick. The car lacks a bit of torque on the lower end but if you can keep the car on the higher end the car is very quick.
    With only traction control and ABS I don't think the 360 will be safe with more power.
    You can feel every bit on the road, the steering is so precise, that makes for a great experience.
    My car does AT LEAST 5 seconds 0-60 because I don't want to just floor it and wear the clutch unnecessarily, the only one time I floored the car from an standing still and I smelled the burnt clutch I decided the 0-60 is irrelevant for me.


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  25. BrettC

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    I also have fun reeling in the 430's & 458 on our spirited drive sessions.
    It's fun to see the faces on some rear view mirrors when I am up there backside's in my 04 Spider 3 pedal. Sure they can accelerate faster than I in a straight somewhat, but in the corners...watch out!
    Great example of the last of the analog car's.

    th
     

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