2017 FORMULA 1 PIRELLI BELGIAN GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

What a great duel from Ham and Vet. Supreme driving from both of them. They were clearly on the limit for much of the race. A single mistake would have changed the course of the race, but neither made one. Regardless of who you support, this was superb stuff.

Poor max. Can think of anything else to say. His monza race is also toast as he will have to take a heap of penalties for that. Real shame to see someone so talented being held back by crap reliability.

Same for Alonso. Honda remain an embarrassment.

Perez and Ocon need to sort it out before one of them ends up dead.

 

Or before both of them end up dead.

 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/131504/fresh-oil-burn-intrigue-ahead-of-clampdown

Mercedes has played down talk of fresh tensions between itself and Ferrari over Formula 1's ongoing oil burn controversy, after it introduced a new engine at the Belgian Grand Prix.

The FIA has published a series of technical directives this year in an attempt to clamp down on teams burning engine oil as fuel for performance gains.

Last month the FIA informed teams that any new engine introduced from the Italian Grand Prix would be allowed a maximum consumption of 0.9 litres of oil per 100km.

F1's oil burn controversy explained

Any engine implemented before next weekend's race at Monza would still be allowed to use up to 1.2 litres per 100km.

Mercedes brought its fourth and final power unit of the campaign to last weekend's Belgian Grand Prix, with Lewis Hamilton claiming pole position and fending off Sebastian Vettel on Sunday to win the race.

That decision is understood to have caught Ferrari by surprise, although suggestions a gentleman's agreement had been in place between the two outfits not to introduce an engine in Belgium are understood to be wide of the mark.

Performance gains from the new power unit - which sources suggest were worth a tenth of a second at Spa - prompted fresh discussion over the issue of oil burn, but Mercedes boss Toto Wolff was confident it would not become a source of conflict between his outfit and Ferrari.

"We are fierce competitors and the relationship we have is that we stick our heads together if there is a problem, and we discuss it behind closed doors," said Wolff, when asked by Autosport if Mercedes' decision to introduce the engine before the new rules came into force could cause Ferrari any angst.

"It hasn't come up. We need to be careful that things are not made up in the public that are just not right, and not true.

"So far, I'm easy about it."

Wolff added it would be wrong to suggest the new engine was key to Hamilton's victory.

"As it stands you need to extract every single bit of performance, and it was particularly difficult, because we had to balance our qualifying performance versus the race performance," he said.

"And we've given up qualifying performance in the second sector in order to have that advantage in the race.

"So you have to add all those bits, those milliseconds that add up, to one number.

"That was good enough for us to win today. So everything adds up but I couldn't pick out one element that is responsible."

 

Nice review of the race by Brundle - Martin Brundle: Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel rise to new level of excellence at the Belgian GP | F1 News

 

At least Alonso will have the option of a quicker car.

 

Can we do that transfer right now: Perez and Alonso seat swap pls

 

+1. Or even Alonso to Renault, or even Williams... Will someone at least just do a loan deal till the end of the season. Anyone???!

 

It's sad to see one of the greatest talents on the grid being wasted in a crap car.

And the Alonso situation is equally bad...

 

I'd say no matter how you slice it, LCH beat Alonso in 07.

2007 stats:
Qualifying.
LCH average quali position 2.59
Alonso average Quali Position 2.88
Advantage LCH

LCH outqualified Alonso 9 to 8
Advantage LCH

Pole positions
LCH 6
Alonso 3
Advantage LCH

Race inc DNF's.
LCH average finishing position 3.35
Alonso average finishing Position 4.59
Advantage LCH

LCH finished ahead of Alonso 9 to 8
Advantage LCH

Race excluding DNF's.
LCH average finishing position 2.38
Alonso average finishing Position 3.56
Advantage LCH

LCH finished ahead of Alonso 8 to 7
Advantage LCH

Wins
LCH 5
Alonso 3
Advantage LCH

Points
LCH 109
Alonso 109
Tie, but based on # of wins Advantage LCH

Tell me how that is anything but a Rookie beating the reigning two times WDC with six full years experience under his belt. I'm not saying Alonso isnt' (wasn't IMHO) an outstanding driver, but no matter what excuses you want to make, LCH beat him in 07.

 

I agree.

The stats tell the truth.

 

I don't read too much into 2007. It was a bizarre situation and McLaren pretty obviously threw their weight behind and favored Lewis heavily. He was the McLaren protege, a Brit in a Brit team. Once they realized he was fast it was all about him. LH would want no part of Alonso in equal cars, trust me. He has always spouted off BS about how he will accept anyone as a teammate but he is just as picky as other top drivers about who gets the second seat. You better believe he would veto Max or Alonso.

 

He's already veto'ed Alonso.

He'd be wise to Veto Max. Max would destroy him.

 

Dream on Mr. Adult Entertainment Entrepreneur.

 

Whats your beef with that, don't you watch porn?

 

That's for twisted degenerates.

 

LOL

 

Welcome to the real world snowflake

 

Fchat is car-porn.

 

That all reads great for him but it remains the question why Alonso was still even on points?
The answer is easy: because Lewis lost cool when he was about to win a sensational WDC in his rookie years and threw it all away....
So your conclusion must read: Hamilton was about to beat Alonso before the second to last race and then threw it away...So even while leading in all your stats he was not able to score more points and win the WDC so the only person Lewis has beaten this year was himself at the end

 

Max would beat Hamilton relatively easily. Which is why he will never be teammates with him.

 

Judging from your inordinate number of posts, who's really the true snowflake here with seemingly so much time on their hands?

 

The same way he's beating Ricardo easily lmao.......

 

6 DNF's....due to mechanical failure....certainly not his fault??

 

Maybe his sidekick #P.Singhof is the man behind the camera?

With Daytona playing the lead role?

 

Lol

It's fun to know the peanut gallery