Prove it then Nico gave elton a good hiding at times, and left f1 as world champion. Very good driver, thoroughly nice chap, and has more brains in his left index finger than many have all over
Show the results of all three years, in order, for both drivers. You might remember Nico held some record for consequetive wins, which went something like the last four races of one year, through into the next five, and he did hat twice as I remember. Don't just post up one year of a three year question
The guy said 9 races in a row.... 2016 , 8 races in a row.....2014 - which is false. So now you want results of 3 years, which is not what the fraud claimed. Nico did win the last 3 races in 2015 and first 4 of 2016, for a total of 7 across 2 years.
Rather than droning on about Hamilton is or isn't worthy, why isn't anyone talking about Vettel and the great job he is doing this year? Why aren't more folk happy that, for the first time in many years, we actually have a wdc fight between multiple world champions in different machinery?
Put the results up. Let's see if he was right or wrong.... surely you want to prove your derogatory remarks towards him?
Vettel and Kimi are going well as drivers, the team itself has done well. However, yesterday was rather a large step backwards from the progesss made, so there is little positive to discuss. Both drivers had mechanical issues as well as a lack of overall speed (despite the promise of the engine upgrades we were supposed to have seen this weekend). We also need to touch upon the fact that Mercedes yet again had gained an unfair advantage with their new engine at spa circumventing the new rules from monza onwards, and the fact that this likely means the fight is over for this season with only the chance that at a couple tracks to come ferrari might still have the fight in them where the Mercedes cheat engines won't make as much of a difference. Bottles clearly has now accepted his contractual requirement to not challenge elton for the rest of the season, so there won't be any battle whatsoever for any races aside from the chances I mentioned. With this in mind, while I would love to wax lyrical about ferrari, there seems little incentive to do so while looking down the barrel of more wasted race weekends where no doubt we will have to put up with the pure drivel that comes from the Brit press and some here that cannot compute the difference in number of races/points etc that enable any driver with a dominant car to rack up results. If these people could actually comprehend the real world and stop trying to make ridiculous claims about their hero, maybe he himself would become a little more palatable and a little less a target for our humour here on FERRARIchat. Forza Ferrari
here ya go (pics) and if too small here is the link: Hamilton vs Team Mates (2007 - Album on Imgur Rosberg is the orange line. Side bar are championship pts and bottom are GP's Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
2014, from Monaco, Lewis won 3 races later in Silverstone 2016, Lewis won in Monaco and Canada, 6th and 7th races of the season. They both retired at 5th race. Please, stop making up stuff
The left side of the graph are representative of championship pts and bottom of the graph are Gp's. I interpreted the graph as wins (Rosberg orange line) so if I mis-lead anyone then its my bad. I should have stated he lead in championship pts 9 in a row and 8 in a row.
So 18 hours later and another 100 posts desperately trying to prove Lewis is an average driver who lucked into all the record books etc etc . This is 1/3 of all the posts on the 2017 Italian F1 ! Nothing else worth discussing ? (The paint dried..is it safe to come back now?)
We hear that, loud and clear. But what I cannot understand is why tifosi like you don't examine more closely the flaws at the Scuderia that stop it being at the top, rather than blaming the opposition that keeps winning, and gathering titles. Any football fan, for example, ask for explanation when his team doesn't perform. Is it the management, is it the manager, or the trainer, or the players. The fans ask for change, challenge the team owners, even petition to obtain satisfaction. But a self-confessed tifosi like you only think at lambasting the team and the drivers who regularly beat your favourite team. You attack their personality, you ridicule the driver that wins, you doubt their performance, etc... I even read from some that Mercedes benefits from an unfair advantage, that the FIA is pro-Mercedes, that Charlie Whitting never penalises Hamilton, etc... It really looks like paranoia. All that won't make the Ferrari go faster, nor improve its chances. That's why you should concentrate on. Ferrari has gone through bad years, because there is a tradition of self-immolation at the Scuderia and of blaming rather than encouraging. The working atmosphere is reputedly atrocious at the Scuderia. Three team managers in one year, for example, doesn't bode much for stability. Ferrari sacked his chassis designer, who went to ... Mercedes! Ferrari sacked its engine designer. Recently, Allison leaved Ferrari, and went to ... Mercedes. The Ferrari F1 team is managed by a marketing man, taking his orders from an accountant; for Christ's sake !!! Here are Ferrari's problems; it's not attacking Hamilton and his lifestyle that will put them right. Slandering him probably makes you feel good, I have no doubt, but it's rather pointless. I think Hamilton gave a taste of his contempt for the detractors yesterday on the podium.
Meanwhile Hamilton is turning his Mercedes DOWN ! I must say Lewis has been fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. Shame he never relished a challenge of building a team up when it's a dogs dinner, as MS did with Ferrari.
You have your way, I have mine. I see ferrari trying hard to overcome their deficit to Mercedes dominance whilst shackled by ridiculous rules and favouritism from the FIA. Marchionne already gives our team a hard enough time, why would I add to it. I tried to have a first hand input to ferrari through 2009 onwards for a while corresponding directly with Luca and then his successors, but in many ways out issues then are as now, the rules were amended to favour other teams, and hamper ferrari. Now, they hamper everyone except Mercedes In the meantime, some of you might bother to recognise that tifosi REACT to the bull**** that the elton lovers try to impose upon them. Maybe if they want to hear only positives about our sworn enemies, they might be better served to go play with their peers in a forum that would be more disposed to agree with them, rather than try to impose their sometimes ridiculous rubbish here and cry foul whenever someone disagrees with them. I hope they remain here, but they have to expect that ferrari and great drivers of all teams might be defended rather strongly when necessary, although I think you will find, certainly in my case, that I try to remain humourous and at worst sarcastic, rather than downright nasty or insulting which is more than can be said for some recent personal insults I and others have received recently It might also be worth noting that some of Elton's fervent fans here poke at the likes of myself, Pete singhoff, bas and others whom they are aware feel strongly, seemingly trying to provoke reaction, and then are the first to cry wolf if one of us dare reply...... childish behaviour, intended to try to illicit bans, which is rather unsporting.
