F1 to manual conversion?

My opinion is buy a manual if you want one. They made more of them than the F1.

A properly working 355F1 is a wonderful thing and there is no need to butcher it.

 

There was one 355 for sale recently that had this done. It was out there on e-bay and some other sites. Not sure if it ever sold. The last price I saw suggested the effect was equivalent to a title mark. -$15k

I considered doing it and have all the details necessary to execute the surgery. In the end I just figured out the F1 issues and fixed that. It is a fun car to drive and I like it better than the manual machines I have as it acts completely different. Still can leave you hanging if something goes wonky, but hey, WTF.....

Unless you have a FUBAR'd F1 car, I would simply purchase the Transmission style you want and skip the conversion.

 

Personally I would just buy a manual because the only thing better than an F1 is to have both.

 

Continental Auto sports service department had recently done it to a 355, the mechanic who actually did the job told me it was very easy as all the parts are basically bolt-on and the access for the clutch pedal is already marked and ready to install without drilling or cutting.

 

I beleieve this job is very easy to accomplish especially a DIYer.
I do think it would be seen as a negative on the car by many people, me? my car if it(F1) ****s the bed I'll change it over in a heart beat.

That being said

Only real pain in the ass is swaping the ECU as in $$$ I read that you must swap out the engine ecu to a 6 speed cars part number.

I have looked into this as well and I learned one important fact.

After 1998 all 355 transmissions were upgraded for the F1 model. Certain parts are beefier than the earlier cars other than just bolt on parts these transmissions are Identical.

The one important part thats been impossible to source from Ferrari or from wrecks, as no one parts out transmissions, in order to get this part it would be easier and save time to just machine a new one, is the plunger that's the input into.the transmission housing. I read that Braden one of the sponsors was going to.make a run of these just for this purpose as they have people doing it to F1 cars now.

Everything else source from a wrecked car.

I have a pedal box and a shift rod already stashed.

So it's been done others will do it in the future.


You could.also.do this for shots and giggles, just keep all your F1 parts and sell them with the car or swap it back to a F1 before you sell it.

Just some elbow grease and some hydraulic fluid.

 

It can't kill the value of the car. How could an F1 355 be worth any less? The trans is a nightmare in that car.


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Really? Mine runs like a Swiss watch

 

Funny... I've got a complete F1 system stashed + spare parts because I can't imagine life without my 355F1

 

As others stated, buy the tranny you want, avoid a conversion

 

The F1 transmission was a landmark in Ferrari history and automotive history since it marks the first car with a Formula 1 derived sequential transmission. Compared to current DSG's and SSG's, it shifts like its on vacation somewhere and you should lift the gas pedal on downshifts, but it is what it is. Personally it is not for me, but I would rather not change the stock configuration of the car. Rather, go buy a manual version.

Now, if I owned an F1 car and the replacement parts became unobtainable or extremely costly, then I might consider the retrofit.

 

Well there you have it. I'll march out to the garage and tell my car to stop driving so darn well.

Seriously, the "transmission" is the exact same as a manual transmission. Just managed by a computer / hydraulic shifting system.

But you knew that right?

 

I believe I've read that doing this to a 360 F1 may be somewhat easier. Haven't really thought of it before but depreciation wise that may make more sense since they made less stick 360s-and many less 430s if you went that route

 

Exactly what parts of the transmission are the nightmare.

If you can't name them then you're just fear mongering.

 

All of them when they are worked on by idiots.

None of them when setup and operating properly.

Kinda like the sdl system.

Of course imo

 

What parts are a nightmare? The first generation F1 parts that are now in the technological Stone Age. Those parts. The parts that are now supplanted and advanced by 16 generations. DCT's. Some of us get spoiled by technology's advances, no? My grandmothers Hyundai shifts better.


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Thanks for answering me with nothing To back up your claims that the F1 cars transmission is a nightmare.

Want to *****nmoan go ahead but name the parts that are at fault. hint it's not the transmission but to you age is what's at fault here because it's old.

Hey even grandma gets old ehh

And I'll bet your grandma's Hyundai has her rolling in the ***** Good for grandma!

 

Oh, I apologize you're absolutely right. The 355f1 and the 488 shift gears identically the same.


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You are comparing two technologies that are radically different. The 355 F1 is a single, dry plate clutch. The F1 function is automated, that's all. It's a manual gearbox. A DCT is a totally different animal.

 

That's right. Advanced technology. Faster shifts.
Kinda like going from non synchro double clutching to synchro mesh.


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DCT is advanced technology but to say a 355 F1 is a nightmare is just ignorance. I'd also state the SCUD has a single dry plate clutch like the 355 and many would say the SCUD is the ultimate F1 experience.

 

Appology accepted

You pull paddles on both and they shift. Not sure you knew that.

 

Using your logic, the cars listed below are pieces of crap because they are old and shift using ancient technology.

Just because it is old does not mean it doesn't work.

Answer Phrog's question. You have no idea do you? Do you know how these units operate at all? Phrog's does.

Anyway, ladies & gentleman, I present to you mickpucc's collection of crap cars:
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Why are you in the 355 section talking about the latest and greatest Ferrari 488 transmission?

Your argument didn't say anything about a 355 f1 compared to the latest tech in the 488.

It helps to understand what you're talking about before you run your suck about it.

You said these were nightmares in the 355. You fail to state what those parts are that are a nightmare all you did was say grandma's car shifts faster and the 488 is superior. Wow a 20 year newer car is better well I ****ing hope so.

The fact is you have no idea how the 355 f1 transmission works so your claim that it's a nightmare is you just running your mouth because you can't even state what the nightmare is.

I'll bet you don't even know how a 355 manual trans works and until you figure that out gtfoh.

 

Ya
What he said.
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