The Lewis "Elton" Hamilton Sucks Thread

If there were no Mercedes favouring rules, he'd do exactly that, while Mercedes enjoy and artificial advantage even Palmer could be champion in their car, and we all know how rubbish he is

 

What else is new? The more things change, the more they stay the same. Part of the racing "game" is putting yourself in the right seat. Oh well, Sebastian.
Lewis left McL for Merc which I thought was a dumb move at the time. What'd I know, eh?

 

All I can say is that Hamilton didn't suck at Singapore. He took advantage of the mistakes and misfortunes of his main opponents, and brought the silver home.
Job well done. Mercedes can be pleased with that. Not many expected that turn of events, I bet.

 

+1 and if Vettel takes the outside line like LH and stays in the race = points and possibly a win. He simply didnt have the long term/race mindset and attempted damage control at lap 1 when, to be honest there was not much at all. Does he 'learn' from this??

 

The way the sport has developed, it seems to be much easier for anyone to become multi-WDC compared to how it used to be. In the days before the Schumacher-Ferrari era, winning the WDC 2 times was unusual. Senna and Prost doing it 3 and 4 times respectively made them F1 legends. But now it seems that whatever team/driver combination wins one WDC is very likely to win the following one as well and having 3 consecutive championships under your belt seems to be much less of a deal.
IMHO, no matter who wins the WDC this year, the number of WDC they end up having says more about the team and the regulations than it does about the drivers.

 

So true....Seb and Lewis championships are simply not comparable to the ones of Prost or Ayrton, even Michaels 7 are excessive.

 

Huh? It's been happening since day one for F1.
Me t'inks your forgettin' Fangio (5), Brabaham (3), Stewart (3), Lauda (3), Piquet (3), Prost (3)....

(And my guy, Jimmy, prolly would have had at LEAST 3 had he lived beyond race one of '68... )

 

Indeed. Throughout the 70+ years history of F1 there have been dominant cars/teams and some super talented drivers who took advantage of that.

 

I think Jimmy would have won more than 3, 68 was his, and lotus lept on winning like in 1970 and kep building top cars for a few more years...Jimmy was clearly the best so, had he survived i think he could have matched Fangio wich would have been more than fair given his supreme talent.

 

In general, Jackie Stewart tends to be overly opinionated, but his views on Clark were that he simply could drive any car at the edge and yet maintain control. It just made him a much better driver than others around him. The cars were much less compliant back then also.

A deflating tire cost us the prime career of one of the all-time greats

 

That was what I was implying. His percentages for races entered, on average, are still on top.

 

Even if his percentages weren't that good, you just have to look at his races and how easy it was for him to beat everyone else..he was simply in a diferent league....much like Gilles a few years later...

 

But when it comes to fastet in one lap, pole position per race entered i am not sure jimmy beats senna.
Got remember his lotus and toleman were not great cars ...
Hanilton , aside for a couple years, has been spoon fed with great cars. Makes it easier for him to have good stats!


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Sorry but you're mistaken, The Toleman was a very competitive car, as was shown by Senas's replacement, Stefan Johanssen, as for the Renault, it was considered as the most powerful engine in qualifying, and the Lotus, was afr from being a bad car either.

 

Lol...toleman 1984 competitive, i think you are mistaken, it was one of the worst car...
The lotus was good and then when honda came it was poopoo... never missed one senna race so not sure i am mistaken


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Attached the 84 toleman results...


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Johnny ceccotto's results look like the score sheet for lil Maxine! Hopefully the DNQ will come soon, but stand for disqualified!

 

Wasn't the Toleman called "General Belgrano", from the name of the cumbersome Argentine battleship the Brits sank during the Falklands War?

Only Senna got anything out of it and was on his way to a win at Monaco, according to some, until Clerk of the Course Jacky Ickx red-flagged the proceedings because of rain.

 

Senna actually passed winner Prost before the start/finish line when the race was red flagged. According to the rules the finishing order reverted to the positions on the previous lap. Interestingly Stefan Bellof was catching both Senna and Prost and probably would have passed them in another lap or two.

 

Agreed on all points! I am glad we restored the truth: the toleman wasnt that great of a car


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Wrong, the Toleman was a good car, very competitive, of course Cecotto sucked, but as i said, Johanssen proved right after Senna the car was no slouch. Obviously it was not a front runner but it was very far from being a bad car. You just have to look at the score board, in those days you only had six cars in the points, now just look at the number of times (when it didn't break) the Toleman mad eit into the points or near it...that didn't happen with a bad car, regardless who the driver was....

 

Toleman and competitive in one sentence? Really? Hilarious.

 

I was at that race. It was insanity and everybody knew Ickx stopped the race to gift the win to Prost. But Karma cost Prost the title that year because he only got half points.

As a spectator I got completely soaked. My passport was like a wet rag.

 

That is simply ot true, Ickx did it because it was dangerous, that helping Prost talk is Bs

 

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