488 GTO ?

Whatever it's called, for me, it's mostly about what it will look like. Hopefully they will strike the perfect balance when adding additional aero and design features, as they did with the 458 Speciale. I love the current design of the 488 GTB so going overboard would be a shame. As for performance, I'm sure it will be insane, but the 488 already is. Levels of performance like that, while being awesome, are places I frankly will never go.

 

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Surely you are right, performance-wise will be a besta that can be exploited only on track. By my side, not having the possibility to buy one, I think will be a real aggressive animal, kinda like tdf with some Challenge resembling, sure I will love it, so as an automotive engineer I'm looking forward to discover all the aero and mechanical tricks

 

I totally agree.

Here is an insane prediction that I have......It will post up faster lap times then the LaFerrari. Its a huge bench mark but I think it will at least meet the Laferrari or even beat it by a small margin.

 

Maybe in reality yes, but for marketing and image reasons I think only future hybrid 498/499 will be officially claimed to beat around Fiorano the LaF, more likely, 488 GTO laptime will be around 1.21/1.20.5, then, we all know that original 488 is faster than a 1.23 F12 around Fiorano. Maybe they don't release a time at all, just like for the 812SF, that is a bit slower than F12TDF, so no laptime was released.

 

With Portofino out of the way the 488VS must be the next new model Ferrari will launch.Excitement mounts !

 

I dont know and I dont care what it will be called. Just passing on what the dealer said- Having said that- I will do my best to acquire one.

 

Funny thing is that the 430 Suderia was the car to match/ beat( depending magazine you read) the Enzo. Instead of waiting for the all new 458 Italia, Ferrari went ahead and out did the Enzo......which is amazing for a smaller displacement V8.

Now just imagine what the 488 can do with its ability to increase boost pressure and weighing far far less then the Laferrari with a V12 and batteries/motor generator.

My two predictions are

1. it will be called the 488 GTO
2. it will match the Laferrari lap time (minimum)

can't wait to see how close I am......

 

Possibly. Still, the LaFerrari is in a whole different class. I'm second to none in my love for the 488, but it isn't a LaFerrari. Whatever the SE car ends-up being, the LaFerrari's styling, performance, passion (the whole package) is a whole different deal altogether.

 

No it won't. The official lap time will still be some time off that of the LaFerrari. There haven't really been any independent tracks tests of the LF, but given equally sticky tyres it should be able to outrun the 488 VS quite easily.

 

just wait.......just wait.....

 

The car was supposed to be shown to dealers later this month but that's been cancelled as I understand it there are some delays as the car isn't ready yet.

 

If I'm following you correctly then you are asking if you take the 488 GTB, who's lap time is identical to the F12, and crank the boost up like all replacement turbo products it will prove that the lower boosted car was faster than the F12? Maybe I'm misunderstanding. Comparison is awkward anyway between flagship NA large displacement V12 and volume production turbo small displacement V8. Makes even less sense to compare to +$3M Laf IMO. Better to compare turbo to turbo but also troublesome as impossible to tell who's got the cheater chip/aftermarket tune easily increasing the boost.

 

GT2RS destroys 918, doesn't bother Porsche. Ferrari needs to beat or be equal to 720S and GT2RS or all credibility is gone with the V8 buyers.

My bet is it does beat them both

 

No it doesn't. On equal tyres the 918 will be significantly quicker than the 2RS.
Ferrari will follow their usual pattern. Some people don't learn from history...

 

I personally would be more than happy to see a 488 GTO scoring an equal laptime of LaF, even if at hte old Enzo times: Ferrari Enzo: 1.24.9, 458 Italia: 1.25, anyway, I'm just glad to see what a beast they will reveal, surely faster than a TDF, it can score a 1.20 officially (rela laptime no one will ever know), given that §LaF puts on a 1.19.7.
488 front end is still a gorgeous piece of art, love Blu Corsa paint on it, in the sunset rays.

 

Maybe they're working even further to develop more performance and speed, so Mecca stops to annoy them with LT, S and copy paste versions

 

Clearly speaking, I love all Ferraris, V12 or V8, simple thing is that all published Fiorano laptimes are not false, but subjected to marketing, promotion and image, What I think is that factory 488 is more than a half second faster than the Speciale around Fiorano (1.23.5), so it should be a little bit faster than an F12 too, probably around 1.22.3 or 1.22.6. Nevertheless, I'm not comparing them for laptimes, this would be stupid and without sense, different leagues, different typologies, simply playing around trying to predict official laptimes my bet is a 488 GTO lap around 1.20-1.21, then, TDF will remain a totally diefferent beast, this is the good thing, every Ferrari is different in soul and conception. No turbo boost, tuned or not, N2O or not (lol) vs NA fight here, I appreciate all.

 

Yes, Ferrari proved a thing in all this years, whatever happens, they don't loose their mind and follow their route, we shouldn't believe to all the marketing bubbles claimed by Supercars Manufacturers, irl P1 destroys the 720, 918 destroys the GT2RS, remember that times depend heavily on tyres, driver, tarmac and atmosphere conditions and chassis set up. Every OEM can actually set ridicuolous camber and toe angles to score a record on Ring, than they can never use these angles on road going sold cars or the buyers would kill theirself. Anyway, Nordschleife has been modified in recent year due to safety reason, all laptimes after those works are affected by this, with respect to the previous ones.

 

I guess all the talk about a quarter second faster between one car or another matters to some. I really couldn't care less. None of that performance will have any impact on my enjoyment. Whatever the car will be capable of, I'm certain, will be incredible, which I would expect. In the end, what does it look like? That's what matters to most, I believe.

 

Having spent considerable time on multiple occasions in the 918 I don't agree. However its irrelevant as we will know in the next few months.

 

I believe 918 and 2rs use same tires, mpsc2.

 

Vastly different compounds in reality.

At any rate, this Nurburgring discussion is getting a bit long on the tooth. There are much more representative race tracks around the world.

 

I wonder if this car will use Michelin or Pirelli.Anyone got any clues ?

 

Which car are you talking about?
Porsche are mostly using Michelin, for Ferrari it depends - the 458 Speciale was mostly on Michelin and the F12 tdf on Pirelli IIRC.
So for the next 488 SE I have indeed no clue.

 

Talking about 488VS.My Speciale is on Michelin Cup 2s which I love but I suspect 488VS will be on Pirelli.