I think this is the 1960 Goodwood TT and if so car number 7 is 2119GT driven by Moss and number 8 1807GT driven by Siedel/Mairesse?
I got my dates and pics all wrong, of course these are from the 1960 TT: #8 is 1807GT with Willy Mairesse & Wolfgang Seidel. #7 is 2119GT with Moss... Damn time limit to edit posts!!!
Getty photo showing Moss in 2735GT leading Parkes 2119GT at the 1961 TT. Image Unavailable, Please Login
A rare 1960 colour photo: NART entry 250 GT Passo Corto Competizione 1759GT driven by Ed Hugus & Augie Pabst. They finished 7th overall and 4th in the 3-litre GT Class. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Wrong: Photos of the TT (Tourist Trophy) 1960 august 20th: SWB #7: 2119GT (Stirling Moss - 1st OA) SWB #8: 1807GT (Mairesse Seidel - 8th OA)
Yes, already corrected above... post #152 and #153, all because of the editing time limit of 10 min...
A rare period view of the interior of a 250 Passo Corto Competizione: Here's Stirling Moss at the 1961 Nassau TT (2735GT), getting ready to race. A race that he'll win. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Great and interesting photo. It looks as though the ashtray is mounted on top of the dash, not the trans tunnel, which I was surprised to see. There is always something new to be discovered.
No ashtray present atop the dash on 2735GT at Le Mans 1961 or Goodwood TT 1961. I don't think 2735GT had or has a permanent ashtray affixed???? unlike 2119GT. Moss was obviously confident he could win at Nassau in 2735 whilst having a smoke too, which he did. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Very interesting indeed, and thanks for info and the two photos, which confirm the way I always thought 2735 was, except that the shape of that part on the dash at Nassau. The shape is definitely an ashtray, but as you show in these other two photos it isn't there. Must have been a temporary thing as you cited. When I researched and produced models of 2735 as raced & won Goodwood in '61 I had them made without that dash detail, and for a moment the other day when looking at the Nassau photo, I thought I had missed something! I always knew Moss was a smoker... as most of the drivers were. Funny as I always expect various colors, trim, seats, exterior details, and mechanical bits to possibly vary from race to race, I never considered this particular type of interior detail. Thanks for finding another piece to the puzzle of Ferrari racing history!
I think that car No 7 is 2119 with Moss and No 8 is 1807 with either Mairesse or Seidel. Both at Goodwood in 1960.
Sorry, now realise I am late to this party. Did not notice this thread had gone on to the next page. I miss old FC.
The fact of the matter is that after the 1961 TT, Bizzarini personally drove 2735 back from Goodwood to Maranello (probably helping him formulate his theories on the forthcoming GTO) and had a list of special requests (which I have on file) for the factory to attend to, from Moss, for the forthcoming Tour de France, that he had been entered into, but eventually didn’t attend. Amongst these was the ashtray, a cigarette lighter, biscuit tin(!), safety belts, map lights, detachable torch, 15” and 16” wheels etc etc. Only a few of these were eventually attended to, but the ash tray was properly fitted, as the photos testify.
Here's 2735GT earlier in June at the 24hr du Mans, driven again by Moss with Graham Hill (at the wheel I believe), DNF. Image Unavailable, Please Login