Hi Sean, We do 360 all the time - we have 5 or 6 of them in the shop now (parts) with a couple being CS's. Your Honda does not have soft touch - that's the difference...
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Totally ridiculous that a car costing $200,000 to $300,000 plus has these issues and hasn't been fixed in the last 20 years. Where is the Quality Control department?
This situation is absurd in any car let alone one costing the same price as a nice house in Missouri. I have owned 25 cars in the last 3 decades and outside of Ferrari, have never experienced this issue. My daughters have owned 4 Honda Civics, a Toyota Matrix, VW Jetta etc and none had sticky dials.
Agreed, but Ferrari is not alone in its use of this finish. The stuff can be found on BMWs and Porsches, to name just two. The car designers are taken in by the soft, almost silky finish, which looks and feels great, until it isn't. This may be a case of one side of the house (design) not knowing what the other (warranty) is experiencing, but often the stickiness doesn't appear until after the warranty has run out. So the designers keep using it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Well that's true but here is some data too...... Older cars don't have trim with coatings - it's pretty much all "as mold" and is not very attractive. Soft touch is / has been used on many makes including Ford, GM, etc. It's also used on keyboard mice, TV remotes, etc and it pretty much all fails. Companies such as Porsche, Land rover, McLaren are now using hard touch and it's very similar to ours (I've compared them). The main differences are hard touch does not have the rubbery / velvet feel and it also does not hide defects in the base plastic, which is one reason I think they continue to use soft touch.
Ferrari has had this problem and been well aware of it for many years but did nothing to rectify it. My 6 Porsches from 2004-2016- no issues. 4 Jacquars from 2009-2015 - no issues. Gallardo from 2010-2016- no issues. 5 BMW- 2010-15- No issues.3 Mercedes- 2007-2017- no issues. Ferrari F430- 2009 - issues. Maybe I have been very lucky but I do not think so.
Hello Folks, Here is a 458 HVAC assembly video of the process and laser etching of the graphics which is the only way to actually refinish these parts properly Enjoy
Hello Folks, Here is a video of the laser etching of refinished directional buttons (Yes Tony, these are yours )
You knew I would be looking, didn't you! I know I said this before, but the switches turned out absolutely fantastic! It is amazing how much better these make the interior look compared to even non-sticky parts. My 430 looked really good inside but once I had the major items taken care of by Dave, it took the interior to the next level.
Thank you very much for those nice words and your support, Tony Send me an email Jack (not PM) and I can get you the work shop manual.
Fantastic work and a beautiful solution. Does the finished product hold up better than OEM? Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
They should, as the new finish is hard finish. The OEM finish is soft finish, giving you that silk like feel. The new one is just flat, not silky, but that's what makes it last longer.
Thank you, Joe. We don't use soft touch coatings - we use hard touch and they are extremely durable. He is a coating demo video
Hello Folks, So here is what happens when someone tried to "clean the parts" and fails There are right ways and wrong ways to do things.. (Bye - bye graphics) . Image Unavailable, Please Login
I owned a new 2005 M-B S55 that had most the buttons on the dash & steering go VERY sticky within 5 years. Also owned a near-new 2004 Lamborghini Gallardo that had the side air bag covers (on the side of the seats) start to go sticky also after about 10 years. I have not purchased a Lamborghini or Mercedes-Benz since I sold these two cars - also had other issues with both and was therefore put off of buying any other vehicles from these marques. Frustrating situation and I agree with the others who have said "unacceptable". Especially in upscale cars for which a premium is paid.
I too have sticky button problems with my 2010 458. I call my dealer for solutions. For $200, they can apply a clear coat on the surface and stop the buttons from being sticky. Has anyone tries this with their dealers? I wonder what clear coating is being used. Appreciate any comments from experience.
See this thread - I explain it all. More than likely, they will clean the clear soft touch and apply a clear. But, also see the picture above - if the base coating comes off, it's game over. https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/understanding-ferraris-sticky-interiors-a-technical-guide.520454/
How can any clear coat stop this evil ? Not imo, it only is a cover on something wrong imo ... Lets wait for the expert here ... chime in please !
In my case, the infotainment portion of surface and buttons are the worst. Other buttons are tolerable. Have anyone actually replaced them with new ones from Ferrari? What costs? I'd love to have them refinished by StickyRX here but the task of dismantling the dash and taking out all the parts is clearly beyond most of us. I've also asked the dealer for this job - 10-15 hours of labor, about $2000-$3000 just to dismantle everything in order to get to all the parts for refinishing. Let' s not forget, putting them all back together will be another $2K. The hassle along with it is certainly incalculable.
